NIGHTWISH Performs In Finnish Castle; Photos, Report Available

27.08.2009

Music-Photocalypse.net attended NIGHTWISH's August 15, 2009 concert at the Olavinlinna castle in Savonlinna, Finland.

Check out gig pictures and a report on this truly memorable performance.

A posting on the site reads: "If there is a perfect location for a certain band to perform, then NIGHTWISH must have found theirs. It is situated in a city called Savonlinna, in the southeast of Finland. One middle-August weekend the band invaded the legendary castle Olavinlinna and shook its medieval rocky walls for two days. It was an absolutely unique experience both for the band and the audience — to be a part of a concert which undoubtedly can be considered as the most epic show in the history of Finnish metal music."

Radio Lynx has posted video footage of NIGHTWISH's press conference at this year's Artmania Festival, which was held July 17-19 in Sibiu, Romania. The 14-minute question-and-answer session can be viewed below.

Bazillion Points Books is offering a free download of "Chapter 5. The Upward Spiral", excerpted from the newly released North American edition of "Once Upon a Nightwish: The Official Biography 1996-2006", by Mape Ollila.

Joining the book in progress at the start of 2000 during the aftermath of "Oceanborn", this chapter gives inside perspective on events including NIGHTWISH's early gigs with RAGE and future bassist Marco Hietala's early band SINERGY; singer Tarja Turunen's bloody battles with mosquitoes in the wilds of Finland; the band and chief songwriter Tuomas Holopainen's rarely discussed and ill-fated flirtation with the Eurovision song contest; and the creation of what would ultimately be the breakthrough "Wishmaster" CD.

The sample chapter can be downloaded from Bazillion Points Books at this location.

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Thanks for posting, Tero,

though we have seen this video just few weeks ago (26th of July)

The pictures of the gig are interesting - they actually say "NW, Tuska 2008".

It is quite clever that they shot pictures of this gig one year sooner - that must be cost-saving.

The report says that Princess took her Versace dress - as I mentioned already - her stylist is doing quite a good job lately.

(It is writen in Princess´blog about the stylist and clothes, so if you are going to tell me I am making it up - you would better check on Princess blog first)

So, no, white-black dress from the picture dated "NW, Tuska 2008", is NOT the one described in report. :-)

But what I truly enjoyed was this:

"Tuomas came on stage with the usual aura of mystery around him, sailing on his boat through the ocean of melodies. He reigned the castle with his keyboards."

I did read about this already - you know? -

The Aura Of Mystery (the cheapiest one) costs about 216 Eur and is delivered with 4 batteries.

No refference which brand he chose - the cheap one tends to go to green part of the spectrum.

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 10:13
Interesting.
Because Tarja has already performed in Savonlinna-and many times-some years ago.And not just by herself,she was invited to the Opera Festival.

I would understand if NW performed there when still with Tarja,but with Olzon?...
What kind of mystery,what kind of medieval atmosphere could possibly Olzon deliver?

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 12:04
Aaaah, Legeon,

finally.

I was actually also very interested what Princess delivered this time, SO MEDIEVAL.

But we can not actually see anything..

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 12:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gr-u7pIdyc&feature=related

to make your day with a medieval Princess

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 13:34
@mermaid

Oh dear Gorgona(remember that? :P),how stupid,ignorant and narrow-minded are we?

Of course Top Shop skirts,Dolce And Gabbana shoes and expensive cosmetics are medieval.
Of course disco dancing during Amaranth is medieval.
Of course Hep Hep chants are medieval.

And of course,only Olzon could bring that atmosphere with her pop style.
Not that poor tarja girl,with her long Gothic dresses and black corsets and coats and classical singing(because in medieval and renaissance times singers sung their songs with yeeeeiiiaaaaa screams,they didn't sing like tenors and sopranos).

And to wrathchild:

Yes,ducks are MUCH more medieval than pigs,you know.
Actually all kings had large ponds with ducks and gooses in their palace.

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 13:58
mermaid,you can see some photos of the "medieval" show here:

http://plaza.fi/kaista/musiikki/keikalla/nightwish-jarisytti-olavinlinnaa-historiallisilla-keikoilla

Please notice Olzon's outfit.
Mini black dress---that;s what i call medieval! :P

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 14:03
I also see that Olzon changed dress during the show...Nothing wrong with that.
But i'm sure the SAME Olzon holics that said Tarja was a diva for doing that will fing nothing wrong with Olzon doing that.

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 14:05
I guess some people need a special education to be able to notice that there are a few pages in the album linked in the news.

TR wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:10
Legeon,

if I will be just a bit more narrow-minded, I could be used as a ruler.

Actually, I liked to see that Maestro did catch two fishes while key-boarding.

That is good - his looks are nothing special, but man who can bring home fresh food free of charge

such man is not to be sneezed at in this difficult times.

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:16
And I don't get all the haha funny jokes about 'medieval'. The only thing that was medieval there was the castle, just as it is written in the report.

TR wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:16
Actually,

Maestro´s Aura Of Mystery is not one of the best-sellers, as I see.

He would better claim his money back.

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:17
@Legeon
I also see that Olzon changed dress during the show

- you are wrong :) those were photos from both days mixed up together so dont worry....she is not changing her dress during the gig :D...

Lizzie wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:18
As much as I don't listen to Nightwish anymore (for like... 3 years?), you mermaid and you Legeon as obvious New Era Nightwish Haters are an unquestionable entertainment for me.

@ Dear mermaid, if you managed to click on the "next page" link, while browsing pictures from the gig, you'd notice your clever sarcasm is quite... let's say inappropriate, because pictures from this particular MEDIEVAL gig are on the page two. And if you clicked on the next page and yet commented as if there were no pictures from Olavinlinna, just to show your hatred... then maybe take your time to muse about reconsidering your life-view.

@ Sweet Legeon, I can but only tell your great history knowledge has some holes, because in medieval times there was no opera, nor opera singers. Opera stands for XVII century along with everything else baroque. Nor had Tarja's outfits ever been medieval, if we want to stick to the medieval atmosphere. They were (and are) also more... baroque, if we want to stick to history.

And last but not least, this report never said that band created any medieval atmosphere, but the castle. Which is in fact a medieval castle. You hit, you score, but utmost4 out of 10.

chat lunatique wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:24
@Lizzie

Ok,then.Sorry for the mistake... :)

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:30
Dear Chat Lunatique,
I said:
"So, no, white-black dress from the picture dated "NW, Tuska 2008", is NOT the one described in report. :-) "

which is true. Everything I typed IS TRUE.

I did not say there are no pictures from the gig.
____________________
"And if you clicked on the next page and yet commented as if there were no pictures from Olavinlinna, just to show your hatred..."
____________________
And even if I did say that, I just would be WRONG, NOT HATRED.

Does this mean in your head that when I say Princess dress is yellow - it shows my hatred to yellow color? Or to a dress? Or to a Princess?

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:34
Now, when I think of it

everything I typed WAS TRUE, with maybe one exception:

The Aura Of Mystery is in fact CHEAPER - you might get some quite signifficant discount on some specialised webs.

:-)

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:36
@Chat Lunatique

Not to mention how New Era is a precious entertainment for us too.It's a free comedy,and even though i don't have an issue with spending money(especially when it comes to some good laughing) i really appreciate their offer to our emotions.

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:48
"And I don't get all the haha funny jokes about 'medieval'. The only thing that was medieval there was the castle, just as it is written in the report."

TR: You have to understand their brain works in black or white. They read "medieval" so everything should be "medieval" , they are trying to be funny that way. Don't spoil their fun, poor kids :))

Phantom wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:52
Lizzie wrote:

"so dont worry....she is not changing her dress during the gig :D..."
_______________________

Actually, number if her dresses does not worry ME.
I doubt it would have any impact on her singing. If number of dresses used COULD improve her signing
I´ll definitely vote for at least 6 costume changes per song,

whatever Legeon thinks about it. :-P

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 15:52
Lizzie, notice the typical "mermaid tactic" . How she skillfully avoid the core of the sentence, she knows she is wrong but her nature doesn't let her admit it. She has to come up with some other bullshits to cover her own. So you are wrong in any case, even when you are right. She must be right, she is the queen ;)

What a peculiar specimen of human being. Discovery channel should dedicate some documentary on her and her musketeers :))

Phantom wrote on 27.08.2009 at 16:07
God some people here are extremely stupid.

We said that they don't fit the castle atmosphere with their appearance and their singer.

Read our comments more carefully and not with the blindfolds of fanatism.
It is natural to judge how much a band fits a medieval atmosphere WHEN THEY PERFORM in a castle.
But now,i'm sure for you NW would even fit in the dungeons of Erzebet Bathory or even the catacombs of Malta.

Legeon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 16:17
Phantom,

Lizzie knows quite well, that it was not me but Legeon who brought up the dress question.

If not problems with your reading you would recognize that these tow girls discussed the matter and Legeon who was wrong clearly said here:
"@Lizzie

Ok,then.Sorry for the mistake... :)"

Why should I apologize - now, that is something I do not understand. No, naturally, I did not.

Now, would you explain us what you call typical "mermaid tactic"?

Is it that I did not apologize to Lizzie for Legeon´s mistake?

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 16:23
@Legeon , I think TR complained for the way you said it. It's fine if you don't think Nightwish fits a medieval castle. I mean, joking it for an entire page, is it such a big deal?
I can say Moonspell doesn't fit a summer festival, should I codemn them because they DARED to play at a summer festival, with the daylight, instead in a dark castle or in a dark gig?

@Mermaid, you know very well your tactic of avoiding the questions. Why didn't you admit, we were wrong about the clothes? Legeon came up with it, but you kept having fun .
I was referring to your last post, when you quoted Lizzie.

Phantom wrote on 27.08.2009 at 16:45
Mermaid: sorry when I typed it I didn't read Legeon "sorry for the mistake" post.
At least she admits her mistakes. Good.

Phantom wrote on 27.08.2009 at 16:46
Pahntom wrote:

"Why didn't you admit, we were wrong about the clothes? "
_____________________________

well, let us see. The only thing I said here about Princess´clothes was:

"The report says that Princess took her Versace dress - as I mentioned already - her stylist is doing quite a good job lately.

So, no, white-black dress from the picture dated "NW, Tuska 2008", is NOT the one described in report. :-) "
______________________
So, if I get it right, Phantom wants me to apologize for this statement.

Ok, Phantom, I am in a good mood, so let us have it YOUR WAY:

Sorry, guys, my mistake: Princess´ Versace dress is just horrible. Her stylist is a lame and stupid person doing a terrible job, lately.

Happy now, Phantom?

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 17:01
Did anyone look at the pictures of the concert in Olavinlinna? I think Marco has cut his hair.

telekeks95 xD wrote on 27.08.2009 at 17:41
OK, my posts from last hour did not show up, so I must type them AGAIN.
_______________

Phantom said:
"Why didn't you admit, we were wrong about the clothes?"
--------------------
The only thing I typed here about Princess´dress was this:

"The report says that Princess took her Versace dress - as I mentioned already - her stylist is doing quite a good job lately.
... So, no, white-black dress from the picture dated "NW, Tuska 2008", is NOT the one described in report. :-)"
____________________________

Ok, Phantom, if you want me so much to apologize, let us have it your way (I am in a good mood, so):

I am sorry, guys, i was wrong about the clothes. Princess´ Versace dress was just bad choice and her stylist is doing a terrible job lately.

Happy, Phantom, now?

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 18:03
I'm sorry. So don't read my last comment. I was wrong I didn't read the date when the picture was made. Ignore it.
But there is one thing I want to say: The video isn't new I have seen it just a few weeks ago. xD

telekeks95 xD wrote on 27.08.2009 at 18:08
OK, guys, leaving home. More then hour there is no new post here and mine did not appear either.

So, have a nice weekend. :-)

If my posts will not pop up, I will type them again next week (for the third time).

mermaid wrote on 27.08.2009 at 18:19
Well,
@mermaid:
I really don't care what type of dresses Anette wears or doesn't wear, when does she wear them or not. She is not really any model to me, nor was Tarja, in her style.
All I was reffering to hides behind these lines:

"The pictures of the gig are interesting - they actually say "NW, Tuska 2008".

It is quite clever that they shot pictures of this gig one year sooner - that must be cost-saving. "

And those lines made me understand you're either picky or really didn't take a look at the whole gallery. And I still think it's either this or that, but in the end, I don't really care about this too.

@Legeon: Then don't, it's simple. ;) I don't.

@ All: Get a life people! ;)

chat lunatique wrote on 27.08.2009 at 21:34
Why on earth is there a dozen comments slamming Nightwish for having the chance to play in the appropriate atmosphere of a medieval style castle for their fans' enjoyment? Ah yes. Mermaid and legeon (and others, I forget the names), I feel your particular brand of carefully researched pedantic criticism would make you valuable assets to the editing elite of Wikipedia (do you have accounts?) however on MFF it only seems to be aggravating the already irrelevant divide between 'Tarja fans' and 'Anette fans'. Can't anyone else cope with both? The criticisms of Anette are well-trodden. Ex-Abba tribute singer, sounds like Britney Spears, clothing endorsements, self-indulgent blog...yawn. Honestly, Anette's activities aren't THAT funny...are they? There just must be other things to amuse yourselves with.

I realize my comments will be met with yet more impressively detailed retorts, but please consider that your neverending hatred of Anette seems to suggest more than simple distaste. Were you rejected from the applications for the job in Nightwish perhaps? Are you related to Tarja? If so, you may have a valid reason for your campaign against all that dares to defy your strict notions of exactly how Nightwish should look and sound...which counsel, I may add, Tuomas does not seem to be heeding, even after all your hard work on these pages. Sorry to pull out tonight's buzz-word again, but narrow-mindedness does nothing but hold back our cherished genre of heavy metal.

Jon wrote on 27.08.2009 at 21:52
Nicely said Jon! Glad to see I'm not the only one seriously pissed off with all this childish bickering on every single Nightwish article. How about next time you guys go to piss and moan about something small and irrelevant that Nightwish have or have not done, ask yourself this before you comment, "Who gives a shit?".
I'll admit I don't know where I stand with Nightwish anymore, but I'm not sad enough to waste hours of my life arguing about them at every given chance, why don't you guys try and do the same for once?!

Apocalyptigasm wrote on 27.08.2009 at 23:28
first of all im sure if the people wanted a true medieval sounding band they wouldve hired one.
( i'd recommend Ensiferum!:)

i do believe in what you are saying mermaid, Anette is quite the princess, regardless in Nightwish or not. But, at first thought, a lot of people would call her one just looking at her. her princess ways have also impacted Nightwish as a band, in which that could come into account. (complaining about pressure in band, so stressed out, own unsupportive to NW website)....

So, even if a person didnt hate Anette it would be appropriate to call Anette a princess wether you like her or not. When compared to other women metal singers there is a considerable difference. and if you disagree please, explain.

Hayley wrote on 27.08.2009 at 23:38
@ Jon

Awesome comment! I agree 1000%.

CanuckFan wrote on 27.08.2009 at 23:53
Exactly, Jon and Apocalyptigasm nice comments. My post on the previous article got bashed with comments like "This isn't only far Nightwish fans, blah, blah, blah". I want to be able read these articles without hearing people badmouthing this band all the time on a consistant basis. Of course we all miss Tarja, but you guys (mainly James, Legeon, and mermaid) keep bringing trouble and keep wasting your lives over this band. It has been 4 years! WAKE UP!

Seriously, get a life people! Nightwish is not going to please you or anyone. Let them do what they want. Is it affecting your life? NO! If they want to be pop, LET THEM BE POP! WHO CARES! Listen to Tarja's album or listen to old Nightwish and STOP COMPLAINING! And I don't want to hear "shut up" or "we can see what we want" because I don't care! There I said it, have a nice day.

Vern wrote on 28.08.2009 at 00:06
@Vern

"It has been 4 years! WAKE UP! "

That goes to us or the band?Because exactly,it has been 4 years and they haven't let it go yet.
Mentioning Tarja in every freaking interview possible,still denigrating her or her fans for supposedly attacking Olzon with banned nuclear weapons---a handful of photos.

NW,wake up!

ps.I seriously can't believe people are THAT blindfolded about NW in order to:
1)think that we attack NW for some weird psychological reasons and not because of their failure as a music project.
2)Become seriously hurt when we do that and tell us to shut up or get a life(this one is my favorite-it's funny because it only applies to NW...so cinema critics that bash a movie must get a life too?Or people criticizing politicians?) but no one of them insisted on NW fans stop attacking Tarja after 2005.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 00:50
@ Legeon

They why don't you take the high road? Why lower yourself to doing the same things you allege these NW/Olzon followers/NW itself are doing?

Why not attempt to be BETTER than those you are so pissy with and well & truly let it go?

'Cause it certainly seems like that's what Tarja has done, right?

Your reactions aren't about anyone other than YOU. You are the one (or one of the ones) who's being reactionary and posting shit here all the time - that has nothing to do with anyone other than YOU. You make the choice to bash, why not make the choice to LET IT ALL GO?

Take some responsibility for what you write here instead of blaming it all on someone else.

And re. this: "Mentioning Tarja in every freaking interview possible" - come on. This isn't true - it's a ridiculous exaggeration. But that's what you seem to be best at.

CanuckFan wrote on 28.08.2009 at 01:35
Legeon, why do YOU care so much? Is Nightwish that important to you that you have to keep wasting your time over this. That is what I am trying to say. You can have your opinions about the band and that's fine. But to continously obsess over and over this for 4 years is nonsense and silly beyond belief. Most people who do not like a band anymore MOVE ON and listen to other music! If Nightwish wants to harp on Tarja, then let it be. Don't make it your problem too! Geez, why can't people understand that.

If bringing down Nightwish is your life's goal, then you got some serious problems...

Vern wrote on 28.08.2009 at 01:44
CanuckFan, I agree. Couldn't have said that any better myself.

+1

Vern wrote on 28.08.2009 at 01:46
@CanuckFan

It seems you are confused about some things.
NW first show that they aren't a band to be taken seriously,and we criticize them.
We didn't MAKE them take the down hill.

So,people who criticize their politicians are just falling to their level right?
So that actually means that YOU now to the same level with us.

Why should anyone let this go?Because you are too hurt that people DON'T seem to idolize the Princess of wrinkles or the Maestro of the copied songs?

As i said before,all this "shit" we post isn't because of some weird psychological reason.
We were all fans of this band once.And now we disagree with most of things going on with their career.

I THAT hurts or annoys NW fans,they have the option of NOT reading our comments.
We may feed of NW stories,but many people here (wrathchild and Phantom being the most represantitive examples) feen from our comments.
If we are vampires,you are too.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 02:16
And what do you mean "take some responsibility"?

I never said that someone else(a paralel personality maybe) drives me to write what i write.I fully believe what i say.

Which are all what NW show us.
You disagree that they don't fit the medieval atmosphere of a castle with their singer and the plastic fishes on Tuomas' boat?
That's your fault,not mine.I don't tie the blindfolds behind your head.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 02:18
I very much agree with Vern, although I may have supplanted 'Wake up!' with 'Pipe down!'

I don't think anyone here is blindfolded about Nightwish, and it is really quite myopic of you to believe that a) anyone who supports the band is wrong and b) that, for some reason, you are the only ones who know what is really going on. Because really, you don't do you? Are you in the band? Are you a roadie for the band? Do you meet up with Tuomas every thursday evening so he can ask you why everyone seems to hate him, and what he can do about it? I sincerely doubt it.

As for attacking Nightwish for weird psychological reasons, the reason this springs to mind is the way you do it. I don't like Trivium. Or System Of A Down. I also have a big problem with Wolves In The Throne Room. However, I don't feel the need to reiterate the reasons for my dislike of these bands every couple of days. You might think they are a failed music project, you are obviously very, very bitter about Tarja's departure, but that still doesn't give a valid reason why your names appear dozens of times on each news story about the band. I don't think even Derrick Green from Sepultura has received this much negative attention.

You mentioned Cinema Critics; well, if Roger Ebert doesn't like a film (which I admit isn't very often) he simply gives it a thumbs down or whatever and MOVES ON. People criticize politicians, yes, but politicians are people who make decisions that affect your LIFE and the lives of those around you. It is encouraged to have an opinion of politicians, that is freedom of speech. But Nightwish are ENTERTAINERS. We aren't arguing about Marco Hietala's taxation of beer are we? We seem to be arguing about what Anette is wearing! Next week, it will be the latest inconsequential post on her blog we (and by we, I really mean, mermaid, legeon, and their friends) are bickering about- and arguing about and criticizing something insignificant is an insignificant endeavour iteslf.

Jon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 08:26
Jon, another good comment. Exactly the point. Legeon, you fail to realize what this is all about. We know what's going on with Nightwish to a point, but whether we want to be fans of the band or not is totally our choice, not yours. That's why it's not nice to keep repeating yourself about why you and your "demolition crew" dislike Nightwish. We don't care that you guys hate the band, but this ranting is just becoming complete nonsense and is getting really old fast.

We know you and your "crew" hate this band, but you guys can't seem to understand what's more important. As Jon stated, politicans affect our lives, not Nightwish. Those people are the ones who make the decisions that determine where we are going and where we are heading, but Nightwish just entertains and makes music for people.

With all of this time and effort you guys put into bashing and belittling Nightwish, you guys could be doing a lot more with your spare time, like fixing up our world for example ( I am not saying to do that, I am just saying..). Let Nightwish deal with their problems while you should just worry about what's important to you guys; your family, friends, and your lives. There I am done, no more from me.

Vern wrote on 28.08.2009 at 08:57
@ Jon and Vern

Yeah, I may have some bitter feelings about NW, especially with all of this crap happening with Anette and such. But you're right. I have decided to just let it be because I have lost all of my energy from all of this talk, plus I know there are other bands to listen to anyways. Like Ensiferum! Can't wait for FROM AFAR!! m/

James wrote on 28.08.2009 at 09:04
@ Vern

Yeah I think I might give it a rest too. Thanks for showing some intelligence toward the situation.

@ James

Finally, something we can all agree on!

Jon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 10:16
@Jon and Vern: Amen!

chat lunatique wrote on 28.08.2009 at 10:30
@Vern

Nonsense No1:
"But to continously obsess over and over this for 4 years is nonsense and silly beyond belief."

So i suppose you have been spying me and know what i've been doing the last 4 years?
And no,i haven't.I started to realize what this band has become just a few months ago.

Nonsense No2:
"If bringing down Nightwish is your life's goal, then you got some serious problems..."

Because of course,we can right?Some unknown nicknames in a site caqn actually bring NW down.
It seems that you haven't either seen our comments.You only see the surface,that we criticize them.WE have already said that we want this band to become a serious amd respectable band again,not the circus they are now.

And finally people:
WE have the right to be here and comment just as YOU have the right to be here.
As far as my sight comprehends,harrasment isn't allowed,not criticism.
I also never saw YOU telling the same things you tell me to some other guys(names are known)that repeatadly attack Tarja,here or at her articles.

So,pretentious fantards,take your failed psychological explanations and deal with some facts:
We will continue posting here.For the sake of entertainment.If you don't like our posts,don't read them.Simply as it is,just like how YOU keep ordering us to not read the NW articles.
Also deal with the fact that if we criticize Olzon,we have REASONS.Not because we are Tarja fans and that we are programmed to not like Olzon.I actually liked her in the beggining(before she started singing live and insulting countries).
If you are hurt or annoyed by our comments,then you obviously haven't grown up emotionally yet.

ps.I don't need ANY of you to answer me back.I know what you will say,because it will have been already said.
If you want a place were NO ONE criticizes NW and you get attacked even if you will,join the democratic NW forum.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 11:43
Woah, I'm happy that I'm not the only idiot here to think like that about the "famous" demolition band lol.

",and we criticize them."

You don't criticize them, not in a constructive way. You bitch about them and you bitch at anybody who doesn't agree with you (I'm not talking just about you Legeon, actually sometimes you are one of the most reasonable . Mainly about miss Mermaid :) )
You take every possible bullshit which comes out of NW and make a big deal about it. That's why you are annoying. I imagine that's what you wanted to achieve, in that sense you didn't fail.

Phantom wrote on 28.08.2009 at 12:23
@Phantom

At least i don't attack others.I don't mess with other people here unless they start to mess with me.

What all of you don't understand is the value of OPTION:
we have the option not to post here(according to you,we aren't allowed to) and YOU have the option of ignoring us.

As i said,you feed on us just like how we feen on NW.

BTW,you all flatter us with tha "demolition crew" label.If you think we are that important to cause a demolition,then fine by me.
But remember that demolition crews actually destroy ready-to-fall buildings or partly ruined ones.If you think that NW are so,then fine by me again.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 12:46
Legeon, you call yourself demolition crew LOL. Not me

Phantom wrote on 28.08.2009 at 13:48
@Phantom

You are lunatic.I knew that,now it's official.

I never refered to myself as the demolition crew.IN ANY comment,apart from here,after Vern and you mentioned it.

I think your reading skills are starting to fail you.
BUT if you just missed it,i suggest you to look again.I also dare you to look ALL the comments i've posted in MFF.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 14:34
"You are lunatic.I knew that,now it's official.
I never refered to myself as the demolition crew"

No dear, the only lunatic here is some of your friends.
There should be a reason why we came up with this "demolition crew" thing. Mermaid mentioned this name few times. Of course she was half-jocking (I hope for her own sake), but that's where I got this monicker.
Blame the little mermaid :P

Phantom wrote on 28.08.2009 at 15:03
Allow me to remind you that when Tarja started her solo projects,had many albums with NW,and more than 3 world tours.
Olzon is using her fame (which she gained just by joining NW-she had a fanbase from the moment her name was announced) to make her own career.
It was her plan after all.It's so freaking obvious.For what other reason would someone who loves pop and accuses metalheads for her band's failure would join a metal band?
Some believe she likes NW.Yeah right.
That's why she hasn't post more than 1 or 2 impressions from the shows or the songs.That's why she keeps complaining.

Proud Olzon lovers,no need to answer me.
The facts are clear:
-A pop-lover who wants to become famous(SHE said that all she wanted was to become famous.It's in her poem,remember?That one day a world-known band hired her?Not a band with beautiful music,a world known band) finds out that a world known band is making auditions.
-Sends demo.
-Gets rejected.
-Sends DVD.
-Gets hired.
-Earns fame.
-Makes a mediocre album with the band
-Tours for 2 years.Earns money AND more fame.
.
.
.
.
-Announces she's making her solo album.

Coincidence?

ps.To be honest though,i'm happy.I hope she will gather all her pop-loving fans in her solo pop career and leave NW with the real metal fans.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 15:20
Anette intends to make the solo album

http://anette-olzon.blogspot.com/2009/08/person-i-met-yesterday.html

snowman wrote on 28.08.2009 at 15:29
@Phantom

YOU said this:

"Legeon, you call yourself demolition crew LOL. Not me"

And when i answered you that i never refered to myself like that,except after Vern and you mentioning it,you answered about mermaid.
First you say "legeon,you call yourself"
And then you answer about mermaid.

I supsect some serious reading problems here.Or lack of arguments.Pick your fave.

ps.It seems that me previous comment didn't show up...It was about Olzon making her solo album,like snowman said...

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 15:42
@Phantom

you also said

"
There should be a reason why we came up with this "demolition crew" thing."

So,you say that you came up.It wasn't me who came up with it,and i certainly didn't call myself that.

Or you have no idea whate "come up" means?
It means you invented it.And that's right.It was someone else that invented it and then mermaid took it and made fun of it.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 15:45
"First you say "legeon,you call yourself"
And then you answer about mermaid. "

Legeon, don't be so picky on a bullshit
I used the wrong words , I should have talked in plural "yourselves". And I should have used "used" and not "come up"
As a matter of fact , mermaid or The Seer (some of you) invented that word, not me. I thought you knew it.

As for Olzon going solo, I partially agree with you. She doesn't keep complaining about the music though, she complained about the long tour they did

Phantom wrote on 28.08.2009 at 15:57
@Phantom

I never said she complained about NW's music.But she has never said anything except some short answer when someone asked her what she thought of Tuomas,and she answered that he's a genious.But she's the singer,this is what she MUST say.

Other than that,NW don't take any space in her blog.She only mentions their shows just to show her outfits.

About the "demolition crew",i didn't mean that you,not it plural,you Phantom,came up with it.
You said "we came up",and i refered to that "we" you said.Not especially you.

Legeon wrote on 28.08.2009 at 16:12
I wish people would stop this Anette vs Tarja.
Anette is in the band now and I wouldn't have it any other way. It is obvious from watching the interview on this page and the photos that the band are much happier now. They are laughing and joking now which is great to see and it looks lioke they are more of a "group" now than they looked with Tarja as the singer (especially in 2004 and 2005)

Toni wrote on 28.08.2009 at 23:17
chat lunatique:

I, naturally, did not watch all gallery - I saw no reason to spend my time by looking on pictures one year old.

Still, how is "hatred" related to this - that is not something I do understand.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 11:45
Hayley wrote:
"i do believe in what you are saying mermaid, Anette is quite the princess, regardless in Nightwish or not. But, at first thought, a lot of people would call her one just looking at her. her princess ways have also impacted Nightwish as a band, in which that could come into account. (complaining about pressure in band, so stressed out, own unsupportive to NW website).... "
___________________________

I must say, Hayley, I was impressed by this comment.
You are the first person to understand that person is a person.

She will not get miracously better, faster, prettier or more talented by joining NW.
Nor by leaving it.

I still do not understand why do you think I WANT her to leave NW, BTW.
As I explained on new article - I WISH Princess to STAY in NW FOREVER.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 11:54
Jon,

thanks for remembering me.

I would like to assure you and Apocalyptigasm that I will support every singer NW will chose - even if there will be 30 ex-NW singers out there.

But as I said few times already - I pray for Princess to STAY in a band.
FOREVER - if you would not mind.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 11:56
Jon wrote:
"Next week, it will be the latest inconsequential post on her blog we (and by we, I really mean, mermaid, legeon, and their friends) are bickering about-"
__________________________
well, I am not so sure, Jon, I will be here - there is some serious travelling in front of me.

You certainly realized that there are 5 - 18 gaps between my replies here.
I am sorry for this, I know that I swore NOT TO GET ANY LIFE ever, but I already had some when I did the swearing - and I have the job, too.

But go ahead - I will join you when back.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 12:18
Legeon made some great points here, so let me go through:

"But remember that demolition crews actually destroy ready-to-fall buildings or partly ruined ones."
______________________
that is why I think we should start to protect NW. By the look of it we will have no fun in few months - if no miracle will happen to this band.

"I think your reading skills are starting to fail you. (Phantom)"
________________________

Legeon, seriously, Phantom had always serious problems with reading. I told that many times.

"What all of you don't understand is the value of OPTION:
we have the option not to post here(according to you,we aren't allowed to) and YOU have the option of ignoring us. "
________________________

You are explaining this to PHANTOM, Legeon. I tried many times to explain Phantom that I have an option NOT TO READ Phantom´s long and pointless littanies
- but he never grasped this concept.
But - good luck.

The same with Phantom´s immortal words: "You don't criticize them, not in a constructive way."

That is what I said SO MANY TIMES. No LUCK at all.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 12:25
So, by the look of it, little zmrd was missing me A LOT.

OK, Phantom, have it YOUR WAY.

Let us take Phantom seriously - just for this one day
and let us believe that what this little girl from Italy said to Almagest WAS TRUE

and she is in fact 24 years old MALE.
________________________

Now, we have here 24 years old BOY, who says that "sex is overrated"
and when I had a courage to mention that poetry is not the most important thing between man and a woman

I was accused by Phantom, that "women like you are rare" and explained that " there are much more important things between man and woman then sex" etc.

and I TRULY enjoyed that.

because by direct translation it meant that this person never had any sex at all.

We knew that we talked to a little girl, so this was to be expected. I was told that "sex is overrated" when kid.
and I kept to telling that to my first boyfriend, too. (good manners) :-P

Actually, boys in our culture are not tought the same thing. Which is good, because somebody should take care of the sake of mankind.

Yesterday I watched TV and there was some interview with a hypnotist who helps males when they have problems with "functioning" properly (or at all).
and the commentator said: "OK, we all know that after 25th it goes worse".

So, let me think - we have here 24 years old boy - well, MAN. These men are in the army, some of them are married, some of them have kids. They have jobs. They pay bills. They own flats. Some of them are even divorced already.

Based on what biologists and sexuologists say - these men are on the TOP of their sexual activity.

(There is a reason why people tend to have kids before 30 - the quality of biological material is best when 20.)
__________________________

Now, 24 years old male who did not "score" yet, or even if - the experience made him believe that "sex is overrated"

.... ok, things are not functioning well, or at all. Or a man is just NOT ATTRACTED by a WOMAN. That happens, too. It is a tragedy, off course and we might even feel sorry for Phantom.

I can imagine that there is a culture in this world (after all it is a big world) where 24 years old normal and healthy male has no sexual experience.

But what kind of male would STATE that PUBLICLY???
(I know this is an ANONYMOUS place - but anyway.)

So, boys, those of you who REALLY are BOYS - I would like to ask you - would you ever ADMIT such a thing?

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 12:57
@mermaid

I am not a man-sorry,boy :P,but i can tell you what my boyfriend-fiancee(how much i hate that word) says.He is 24 to 25,exactly the age you are dealing with.
And this isn't what he tells me in order to sound good,this is what he believes:

Although his first priorities in a relationship,what matter mosts,is love, after that is matching characters and interests and looks,he says that sex is huge aspect in a relationship.Your partner must be able to fulfill all your expactations,romantic and sexual.

On the other hand,he has had relationships before me,in which he wasn't satisfied sexually from his partner,and although he says that love matters,something was missing.

We should not forget that making love is maybe the most ancient and original way of showing love to your mate.

Of course,all that from the point of mature relationships and pure feelings-not just immature short-term relationships.
Abd even in those,sex is what matters most,since love is mostly missing.

SO.NO matter how you see it,through what kind of relationship,sex isn't overrated for men.
Women feel that way.And furthermore,unexperienced women feel that way.Women that either haven't been in any serious relationship or that have been in non-mature relationships.

Girls,in other words.

Legeon wrote on 31.08.2009 at 13:31
Legeon,

:-)

but today I promised to treat Phantom as a MALE.

But, yes, you are right. Naturally.

All these psychologists, sexuologists, therapeutists, all this porn industry with everything from pornostars and movies, to
underwear of some special sort, toys (and I do not mean just dildos) etc

all these multi bilion euro business employing milions of people
THAT IS NOT about INNER BEAUTY exclusively.

Sex naturally is an important part of long term relationships.

And it is not an accident that it is called a "matrimonial duty".

But let us see some male opinion on this subject.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 14:19
Tero,

no male opinion on this subject from your side? :-)

MFF Staff: No mermaid I am just enjoying my reader status :)

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 15:02
Mermaid , I think you are the one having problems with reading or I can't write properly.
I said that I'm glad that there are still women like you , although they are rare. :))
Tell me, when did I state that "sex is overrated" ? Are you confusing me with your beloved Maestro? :P
Most important thing, when did I care about your personality and your private life? Never, I wish you could do the same about me and treat me like an user (male or female, as you wish) who writes opinion about Nightwish and music.
You are 35 years old and you are still bitching about a metal band, how should I take your "opinions" about me seriously? LOL
I could write any possible bullshits about me on this place, and it wouldn't be your fucking business anyway. Not even if I write that I'm an alien from Mars or Michael Jackson resurrected. You don't need to know who I am to agree or disagree with me.

Phantom wrote on 31.08.2009 at 15:20
Mermaid, I never said I'm 24 . I'm 25 .

Ok, mind you if I ask some personal questions? You like to get "intimate", I noticed. :D

How old are you?
Where are you from?
Are you married? How many kids?
How many times do you have sex per week?
Which is your favourite position?

what else, are we getting intimate enough? :D After all this is the right place, I mean the site is called Metal From Finland. It's perfect to speculate about people private life, especially if they are random users on a random new about Nightwish.
Tero (or MFF staff) what do you say? Is this the right place? :P

Mermaid, I think mental asylum would be the right place for you

MFF Staff: Many people are getting personal here and I do agree that it is probably not the right place to do so. But then again people only know about you the amount you are willing to give them. Right? But you have a good point.

Tero
MFF

Phantom wrote on 31.08.2009 at 15:37
I'm truly disappointed with this place, especially as MFF staff let this circus going on.
I mean, if it would stick to Nightwish and music it would be ok. The rest is annoying.
It's a pity, despite everything I liked some things written and discussed here but it's impossible to stay and to talk in a civil way with this circus going on.

Congratulations.

MFF Staff: I would like to see conversations like these going on in our forums instead of in these comments. But I have done a poor job of promoting our forum and therefore not many even know it exists so :)

It is hard to draw the line where the conversation gets personal if people are answering personal questions. Everyone is anynomous here and therefore no one really knows who you are.

Tero
MFF

Phantom wrote on 31.08.2009 at 15:42
Tero
I just gave , as personal info, my age and my gender.
I like these kind of discussions too. That's why I enjoy to read this forum. But some people cross the line too much, that's why I had to react in an arrogant and cocky way. Myself, I can't stand arrogant people who mock others opinions. I recognize that I acted in an arrogant and disrespectful way with these people, ignoring them would have been the best solution.

Phantom wrote on 31.08.2009 at 15:57
I know that everything is anonymous, I'm not concerned about that.
Sometimes it's hard to voice opinions without someone mocking and barcking.

Phantom wrote on 31.08.2009 at 15:59
Mermaid, however you have to explain me your equation "sex is overrated"= no sex at all/not attracted to women.

Again, since you like to be intimate, I may assume that you are attached to sex as mechanical act, porn , every strictly material aspect of sex. Don't you value sex as something important which complete a relationship between two people (but it's not everything)?
Screwing around , meaningless, is sad after a while. It's much more satisfying doing it with someone you like and love. I guess you learned it from your adult woman experiences.
Perhaps this is the meaning of "overrated".

Don't think I didn't guess which was your ultimate goal :P

Phantom wrote on 31.08.2009 at 16:51
oooo, Phantom,
let us put it this way:

You are ACTUALLY complaining that I am getting "intimate"?

Well, and your attempt to complain to Tero?...interesting, indeed.

So, now Tero is responsible that I just collected some "facts" you presented about yourself (never asked you one "intimate" question, BTW - as Tero explained you - you put these "facts" here voluntarily)

and I did not even present it in too mean way. (I could do much better job, if I want)

If you would like to continue to pretend you are male - then I have a good advice for you: DEAL WITH IT.
That is what males do. They do deal with such things. They DO NOT go and cry on Tero´s shoulder.

Or should I remind you? OK:
__________________________
Seer´s comment on 30.07.2009 at 14:38: Narowmindedness article:

"Phantom was also very mean to me. He called me loser, fag, idiot and retard in ONE comment. I was SO distressed that I spent the whole night crying! I must be emo too. :-p I won't mention names he called mermaid. He is obviously one bored lifeless rich kid (age 25). "
___________________________

So, when you called Seer LOSER, FAG, IDIOT and RETARD in ONE comment - you were not disgusted by MFF staff? Was not this a circus for you that time?
Because we (Seer, me, Legeon, Gothic Lolita, etc) are NOT humans - we are just animals?
So, why to aply the same criteria on you, right?

Naturally there was everything ok when you called us names (and this was not the ONLY case).

But now I have been so cheeky as to put together something about you - and you sudenly need Tero to change your trousers?
___________________________
Tss, tss.... what a shame. I knew you will not be able to keep the brave male image for a long time. But this is a real failure, anyway.

MFF Staff: As I wrote to Phantom about all this being too intimate...it's very simple. Try to keep the conversation about the news itself without getting too personal with one another. It doesn't require a rocket scientist to realize that there are 2 sides presented here and having a debate about things is just fine. In fact it's for the good.

Now if someone starts asking intimate questions from a poster over a public place like MFF it's not good. But then again, no one is obligated to answer any questions concerning their intimicy. After all, we all must have one. I mean I wouldn't have to let anyone know that I still play with teddybears (oops..) :)

I want this to be fun and as long as people aren't doing this with blood in their mouth I am sure we'll all be just fine.

Peace.

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 17:55
Now let us have some "best off" Phantom (whom I decided to consider to be a male today)

"when did I care about your personality and your private life? Never, I wish you could do the same about me and treat me like an user .... You are 35 years old"
______________________
well, you did almost all the time. You still care for me - mainly my psychological wealth-being, the way I live MY own life...
and BTW - and I am saying that for 4th time already - it is CanuckFan who is 35, not me.

______________________________________

"But some people cross the line too much"

"Sometimes it's hard to voice opinions without someone mocking and barcking. "
_______________________

Yes, and this was what many people tried to tell you - that you are just way too annoying.

I explained that to you (and I warned you) in my post on 3.8. 11.25 nightwish_mainman_interviewed_at_artmania_festival article.

I also did some promise there about what will happen to you, if you will not stop your troubling ME.

You replied that you could comment what you want.

BUT THE SAME GOES FOR ME. I can comment what I want, too.

And remember: I am still quite NICE.

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 18:06
A teddy bear, Tero? :-)))

I still think that Phantom´s vocabulary does not belong to public place, but this is YOUR place and I respected your decision in that matter, remember?

But you are right - and that is why I do not answer questions when I do not want to.
I mean our discussion with CanuckFan we had another day about having kids - that was a private talk and I think we both enjoyed it.

But, honestly, do you really think I am going to answer Phantom ´s questions? Why should I?
I never did answer any of HIS questions, so why should I start with: "how many times do you have sex per week?"

Have I ever asked HIM such a question?

If I remember correctly I asked HIM mainly to let us be...

But, look. How very brave male, indeed.... :-)

PS: I BET that now He is reconsidering HIS decision to be MALE in here ...

MFF Staff: Oh come now mermaid...teddybears are so cool and fluffy :D

And I think that is EXACTLY how it should go, if someone asks you something you are not comfortable on answering, you simply don't. It doesn't get anymore simple than that.

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 18:19
"Oh come now mermaid...teddybears are so cool and fluffy :D "

You know, Tero, I actually never had a teddybear. Or Barbie, for that matter.

My father wished to have a son and I had male cousins only, so
for me it was all about guns, while being a kid.

I started to learn how to shoot when 5 (with a gun put on a wall, actually, not being strong enough).

Still being good at it (after all these years of practicing) - I even won some small prices.

On Christmass party the other day I challenged our general manager (arabian and hungarian in one person - do NOT ask)

and I won. That poor guy actually shot our company billboard that night. :-)))

I should say I used to be quite reckless when youger (we shot INSIDE the building) but last few years I try to behave properly.

Otherwise I must say I dissapointed my father. Shooting and horse riding - and yoga to keep me in a proper shape - but no other sport, ever.

I always was a female and I always looked like one. No trousers, either (except of horse riding, naturally). High heels in all circumstances.

So.

Have a nice evening. :-)))

mermaid wrote on 31.08.2009 at 18:57
@ Tero/MFF

I would also like to see these conversations in the forum rather than here in the threads. It does get annoying to scroll through the slew of unrelated comments to find stuff that is relevant.

I think you really need to put a tab to the MFF Forum on the main MFF page (up with the "home", "bands" "videos" etc. tabs) in order to draw traffic there. It's also a good idea for navigation purposes.

I see what your point is for what we share here in our anonymous cloaks. Yes, I only reveal what I'm comfortable revealing and I used a different nickname here than I do other places on the net, so I feel "safe" about what I say. I don't mind people knowing my age, gender, country, and occupation. None of it is very special & won't lead anyone anywhere near me, really.

I just think that these threads often disintegrate into silly, irrelevant topics that would be better hashed on in the forum. I have even considered starting a few threads to draw people there, but I'm a little too afraid of feeding into the negativity.
I have started some more postitive threads (no Legeon, not pro-Anette threads, I might add!) which has been really fun.

Just my 2 cents. I am loving the forum, Tero. I'm happy to be involved in it and am finding the people there open & friendly & I am learning a lot!

CanuckFan wrote on 31.08.2009 at 19:04
@ Mermaid

Well, another thing we have in common: dad's with guns! My dad is a shooter & collector & I grew up with around guns. Oh, the stories I could tell - trust me! I actually hate guns, but love my dad...so, I tolerate his passion for them.

CanuckFan wrote on 31.08.2009 at 19:06
CanuckFan,

if we would talk about music only, there will be a huge silence here.

As for guns - I actually love them. :-)
My dad did not shoot. He maybe never did. When in army, he was picked up to dizajn guns and as far as he was good at it, he continue untill getting married.

Then he was forced to leave the army and teach for the rest of his life.

It was me who was a contract killer of the family - it was me (since my maybe 8 years) who killed the Christmass fishes, or the pigeons (the pigeons soup is just great, or young pigeons roasted on butter - :-))) But that was a knife work.

As for gns - I used not just "blind" or "dummy" cartridge, but any weaponry I could put my hands on.

Still, only in safe places (with that one exception - colts in a building! :-().

Did you ever ride a horse?

I saw Legeon refference to Malta - and I wanted to ask her, whether she was there?

I spent there 3 weeks on Christmass time and I rode every day. Malta is just a beautiful place, well organized and more british then UK ever was. :-)

You can visit any tourist agency there - they have the same offer of tourist programmes. And you can chose between 1 hour horse riding to somewhere, or 2 hours in Golden Bay. (Or many other things, not horse related, obviously.)
As for me - Golden Bay daily was my minimum.

And on Christmass Eve we flew army helicopter over Malta, Gozo and Comino! Just best Christmass I ever had.

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 11:08
Tero,

what do you mean by FORUM?

MFF Staff: With forum I mean our Metal From Finland Forum at http://metalfromfinland.forumakers.com/index.htm

I opened it some weeks ago but I haven't talked about it that much. Will do more promotion on it soon though :)

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 14:04
OK, thanks, Tero,

I remember now that somebody was promoting it here already and I checked it that time.

Looks way too complicated for me.

MFF Staff: Nah don't say that :) Give it a try someday ;)

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 14:36
Tero,

I did already. I came there, got lost, came back.

I am a typical user - I do not like when things try to get tricky on me..

But - just because of YOU I tried again now.

Went there:
http://metalfromfinland.forumakers.com/metal-from-finland-f5/favorite-finnish-metal-band-t31.htm

and there are people who are just listing finish bands.

Is that supposed to be FUN? I would better stick with just normal gossiping with people I know...

MFF Staff: Well you can always start your own topics there :) And you can also invite your friends to join you there. Don't get me wrong, you are more than welcomed to keep on posting things here on the comments-section but sometimes having a real "virtual" conversation is easier on a forum-platform.

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 14:47
Maybe, Tero,

but we have what - 2 weeks till HW arena?

Is it worth it - just for these few more postings and gossips here -

is it worth it to change our routine to something what even sound like way too complicated and long-term matter?

Not really. :-)

I do not think we will meet here in October. So, for these few more days ...

MFF Staff: Feel free to do however you see best :) I just provide the tools :)

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 14:59
Tero, BTW,

that Timo Tolkki, who was mentioned here many times - are you family?

Just curious.

MFF Staff: Yes we are related.

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 15:03
Thought so.

:-)))

BTW, wearing long black dress with so much occult jewellery I can bear,

I feel finally ok.

You have been right - every color is ok, while it is black...

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 15:10
Legeon,

something metal from Finland:
http://treli.buzznet.com/user/journal/916931/

Enjoy.

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 15:23
@mermaid

No i have never been,and i would really like to go...We Greeks adore places in Mediterranean :)

Legeon wrote on 02.09.2009 at 15:27
@mermaid

Oh Dear.Oh Dear.Oh Dear.
Although i would like to read the same topic with the preferences of Olzon,brands etc... :P

Legeon wrote on 02.09.2009 at 15:35
Legeon said:

"Oh Dear.Oh Dear.Oh Dear. "

what hapened, Legeon? Surprised that not every finish metal musician thinks that sex is overrated?

Actually, talking about sex - poor NW diehards!
They would have to CARRY Maestro´s children, if his statements that "gig is in his best better then sex ... and ...in fact a collective orgasm"
are meant to be matter-of-factly.

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 16:00
Legeon,

Malta is just unbelievable!

VERY safe place, NO homeless people, clena, well organized, everybody speaks perfect english..

beautiful country.

UK pensioneers (middle class) are spending there their winters, so everybody is very polite and quite old. :-)

There is a pub in Quawra, owned by Irish. It is Diana´s pub and it is all dedicated to late Princess of Wales. Pictures, photos, paitings, calendars, cups, everything you cold think about.

And as I mentioned already - we spent there also a New Year - and just for this one night a huge quantity of Italians came and we were singing "should all acquitance..." in the streets, huged each other and danced!

And when you will be there you MUST do some horseriding. No need to worry.

There are many beautiful places - if you like diving, then it is just perfect, too. But I explained my relationship to sports of any kind, so :-(

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 16:09
Ah, with regards to:
"a cigarette pack saying, 'smoking can damage the sperm and decrease fertility' issue

when in our country started to sell cigarretes with these smart statements

it was quite funny, because before then people asked for a pack of Camels OR pack of Marlboros,
but then MEN (like male persons) have been ordering like:
"do not give me these with the decrease of fertility, give me better those with cancer.."

which brought complitely new point of view for sales planing.

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 16:28
And just BTW - yesterday I watched TV and there was just NOTHING so I clicked though and on VH1 there was something about famous couples.

And you know what? Jessica Biel did pass a crush course in Booty Parlour in naughty behaving so she could be sure that Justin Timberlake will lust for her and for her only...

I always wandered how did she manage that - they are ENGADGED!

Yo know this is funny - in previos centuries women attend cooking courses for the same reasons..

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 16:35
Legeon,

you have mentioned yo are fan of Linkin Park.
You would not believe this, but I met LP first time in anime world.

There are countless videos on yotube with LP - but I specifically like the Numb with Neji-Hinata fight.

These two are cousins, though Hinata called Neji "brother".

In Huga clan the first born rule all others - every child is branded with a mark to make sure she/he will follow orders given.

Hinata is a first born daughter of the first born son, which means the heir. Heji is first born son of younger brother of her father - which means slave.

In chunin exam they meet and fight. Neji warned her and she refused to give up.

And now - the two etical consepts - is it right to fight for freedom and against tyranny and kill the tyrant?

Or: Is it right to kill member of your family whatever happened between you?

Neji gave her a mortal blow in the end. And Numb is just a great music to accompany their fight.

Unfortunately I can not give the link, ut looks like all Numb has been removed from Youtube...

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 17:30
So, Legeon,

only for you: :-))

http://tup.buzznet.com/user/journal/29560/

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/villevalo/journals/1643581/old-ville-valo-interview/

enjoy...

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 17:55
Tero,

just a question:
why is "Narowmindedness" article not poping up between the "Most popular"ones?

It has 333 replies... after all.

MFF Staff: Because being the most popular one isn't based on comments. It is based on the amount of times the news has been read.

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 02.09.2009 at 17:57
@mermaid

""do not give me these with the decrease of fertility, give me better those with cancer.." "

Wow,we had the same here,but as a joke :)

Legeon wrote on 02.09.2009 at 18:28
@ Mermaid

Trust me - the MFF Forum is EASY! And it's easy to start your own topics in addition to the ones already there!

My dad is ex-military but guns have always been his hobby. He is not only a shooter & collector, he teaches the firearms safety course necessary for all Canadians to pass so that they may obtain a firearms licence. He also has testified in court trials as a gun expert. He used to hunt but became more conservationist quite some time ago. I did some shooting as a youngster, and it didn't really turn my crank.

Nope, never been horseback riding, though I would like to one day.

I don't remember Legeon saying she is a Linkin Park fan, though I have admitted that I'm a HUGE LP fan here and on the forum. So, Legeon, if this is true, we have something in common!

CanuckFan wrote on 02.09.2009 at 18:51
@mermaid

I don't recall myself saying that i am a fan of Linkin Park...
I used to listen to them during my teenage,but that's all.
Same with HIM...

I don't like Linkin Park now...or HIM.

Legeon wrote on 02.09.2009 at 18:52
CanuckFan,

and what about poor Tero?
If we move to Forum, he will be left with huge silence here, alone in the dark...

No proper morning stress of reading what unexpected way we chose to move our comments..

Could we do this to him?

MFF Staff: I would get used to the silence and darkness :)

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 03.09.2009 at 10:49
Legeon,

UNO is going to do the same with alcohol - smart texts promising you horrible death are to be excepted - so people could be able to chose whether they want to get drunk with cancer or with damaged gall-vesica...

But by the look of it - crisis slowed them down.

mermaid wrote on 03.09.2009 at 11:36
Do not worry, Tero, we will not fail you...

MFF Staff: Thank you :)

Tero
MFF

mermaid wrote on 03.09.2009 at 11:37
CanuckFan

I found one Neji - Hinata fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzAR5-8HWcc

without the mortal blow I think...

mermaid wrote on 03.09.2009 at 13:40
@ Mermaid

Thanks for the link. Seems like everyone has a video out there with anime in it...

The original LP video for Numb was awesome...I have no idea why it's not on YouTube anymore...

CanuckFan wrote on 03.09.2009 at 16:05
CanuckFan,

yes, anime world uses a lot of music - metal mainly.

Maybe because the same fan groups...

I was actually never thinking about that - I just start to like LP there, too.
:-)

mermaid wrote on 03.09.2009 at 17:07
CanuckFan,

are you on Forum already? And if yes, could you give me a link so I can check on you there without actually getting lost on the way.

That part I saw with people listing groups was quite frightening

... it was like with little boys checking who´s "tool of trade" is the longest one... :-P

mermaid wrote on 03.09.2009 at 17:41
@ Mermaid

Here is a link to my MFF Forum profile:

http://metalfromfinland.forumakers.com/profile.forum?mode=viewprofile&u=37

And if you look to the right, under "Number of Posts" you'll see a link that says "Find all posts by CanuckFan."

Feel free to start a new topic, Mermaid, I think we could have a lot of fun there!

CanuckFan wrote on 03.09.2009 at 20:01
Legeon said to Phantom: "First you say "legeon,you call yourself"
And then you answer about mermaid.

I supsect some serious reading problems here."

I suspect on some other problems. Something Phantom has already denied. XD

TheSeer wrote on 05.09.2009 at 14:27
Seer, which problem? :P

Phantom wrote on 05.09.2009 at 18:01
Phantom said: "Seer, which problem? :P"

It's something like broken collar bone except that it's not collar bone. :-p

TheSeer wrote on 06.09.2009 at 11:45
"It's something like broken collar bone except that it's not collar bone. :-p"

No idea what are you talking about, Seer.

What exactly is collar bone? I know what collar is but where the bone part comes in?

mermaid wrote on 07.09.2009 at 13:17
@mermaid, collar bone= clavicle
I'm not sure which kind of "bone" The Seer is talking about. I can guess.

Phantom wrote on 07.09.2009 at 13:38
I think that Anette has created a new genre! Not "hip-hop", but "hep-hep". Just a random thought :-D

It's the "haters" of the NW "haters" who should get a life and quit bo(the)ring us with the same ol' tired "arguments" again and again. That Jon person - haha, another little boy with a big dictionary (as Wrathchild called me) methinks. :-p

People enjoy us, the Demolition Crew (tm) and their friends and fans. So we are obliged to keep entertaining them. They depend on us. Even if other people don't like it. It's just like with NW really. That's one of the great things about the Internet - entertainment gets interactive. (But you have to filter yourself.)

@Tero, is it possible to establish an "auto-ignore" function for article comments from specific users? I know, mighty exaggerated, but some folks just seem to be bothered too much by our comments. :-p (At least I can ignore videos featuring Anette's vocals all on my own, without needing an ignore function :-p)

Almagest wrote on 08.09.2009 at 06:38
Speaking about medieval music and metal, I have found an interesting link between both:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartal_and_quintal_harmony#Middle_Ages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartal_and_quintal_harmony#Rock_Music

It is said power chords are the reason why some medieval pieces are easily reworked into rock versions.

Almagest wrote on 08.09.2009 at 07:25
Nah, Riddler,

Legeon joined us on Forum few minutes ago, too.... :-P

You will stay here, alone in the darkness...

mermaid wrote on 18.09.2009 at 17:56
Tuleeko siitä 2009 hartwall areena keikasta DVD:tä????

Sami Miettinen wrote on 24.09.2009 at 15:13

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