NIGHTWISH: Marco Hietala interview "I have started singing more since Anette joined the band"

16.06.2009

Victoria Maksimovich of Bravewords.com conducted an interview with Nightwish bassist/vocalist Marco Hietala. Couple of excerpts from the interview below:

"BraveWords.com: So how is your Dark Passion Play tour with Nightwish going?

Hietala: "Last tour has been quite rewarding, we had a new start, totally new singer with Nightwish. So, we were pretty confident about the album and the songs, but of course we had to find out if people would like this stuff, if they would come to the shows. And they did, which was really a relief and a nice thing. Of course, touring mainly is that you do the shows and you enjoy that basically every night. But also the timetable was a little more hectic and the touring was more extensive than what we've done before. In that way it was also pretty stressful and hard at time. Basically everybody should know what it is: we've been getting a lack of sleep, long travel hours, lots of time when you do nothing. And then all you waiting for is hour and a half, hour and 40 minutes for every evening to do the show and you basically try to reserve all your energy for that. You get a lot of time to get bored, a lot of time to think that you could be somewhere doing something else instead of just waiting and waiting and waiting and travelling and travelling and travelling. So that is the one side of the business that sucks."

BraveWords.com: And actually you had to cancel some of the gigs. So were you a little happier because you could take a break during that tour?

Hietala: "No. It was in the USA that we had to cancel four shows, because Annette got sick and there was nothing much you could do. But then again I would have rather done the shows, because that's why we were there. And we basically had just five days off, not doing anything except for having too much to drink and got to meet some people and sign some autographs. Basically we end up saying we were sorry for the evening, but we would really like to do the shows."

BraveWords.com: I have noticed that since Annette had come to the band, you started singing much more than you did before, or, at least, during the live shows it is quite obvious that you are much more involved into singing process.

Hietala: "Yeah, it was quite easy, because there were a lot of parts that I could do, so it was easy to integrate that stuff into a live set. We wanted in to be easier for Annette to come in. I don't know how things will work in future when she has some more albums behind her. When there is more material, the things might change into another direction as well."

BraveWords.com: Comparing Tarja and Annette, what is the difference in feeling when you are on stage with either of them?

Hietala: "Well, with Tarja the thing was that she had the stage persona which required more distance. Annette is more of a walker, more down to earth. She goes around and talks to people and tries to get them going. So those are definite differences. And I don’t want to complain about either: Tarja did what was suitable for her, it fitted her style, it fitted her persona. Annette does what she knows how to do and what she is confident with. And for me those things work."

BraveWords.com: There is a new era for Nightwish music, so are you comfortable with the changes musically as well?

Hietala: "Yeah, we rehearsed and wrote the new album already before we had a vocalist for the band. We were already pretty confident about a bunch of songs that we had at that time: 'Yeah, it’s gonna be a kicker of an album.' One thing was that we had to find the singer and of course it would have been quite easy to try out something quite similar to Tarja, because we tons of demo CDs from girls with opera voices. Some of them were pretty good, but we thought that it would be a bold and good move to go on with something totally different. We wanted to try it out and then we thought that Annette would probably be the best for that. And it seems so far this stuff has been working well."

BraveWords.com: What is your favourite Nightwish song at the moment?

Hietala: "I think it is 'Poet And The Pendulum'. I like the challenge of this song: it has got all the atmosphere changes, all the moods, key changes, tempo changes, and then you still have to keep the whole massive piece together, to have a red line going through the song from the start to the finish. So it’s a challenging piece and I really like that. And then the other one of course, that has a special place in my heart, is The Islander. I wrote the music for the song, and then again it’s something totally different from the rest of the live set. You have quite little elements there, the main thing is the acoustic guitar and then the vocal line, and all the rest is basically just the background. You’ve got to create the tension and captivate people with the acoustic and with the vocal line. And those are the essentials that you’ve got to make it work.""

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He needs to stop kissing her ass. He always got something to say about Tarja.

Buh wrote on 16.06.2009 at 20:44
Well...Anette has better ass than Tarja ;)

AnetteHietala wrote on 16.06.2009 at 21:12
Seriously,enough is enough.The next time someone tells me "don't talk about Tarja,it's been 4 years,get over it" i will throw my whole desk against him..I mean,really,why?Haven't they taken enough from her?Haven't they gained SO much fame from denigrating her?

Now,because the whole diva/greedy/puppet thing wasn't enough,she is ALSO an ice queen.
If they want to support Anette,it is ok.But this comparison in order to make Tarja once again look like she doesn't care for the fans(compared to the all precious Anette-but honestly,no fan ever complained for Tarja's behavior,Tarja never said "where is my bodyguard?" after seeing fans approaching her) is just outrageous,especially because he lies.I went to 2 shows with NW+Tarja,one with Tarja solo and one with NW+Anette.And i saw NO freaking distance from Tarja.At least Tarja is a professional who always has fun with the crowd,despite any personal issues(call me Brazil) or disappointment from the organizing company(call me Greece).

Legeon wrote on 16.06.2009 at 21:21
And no wonder he started to sing more when Anette joined.Someone has to sing in this band,especially in order to cover her.

Legeon wrote on 16.06.2009 at 21:23
Is this the same Marco who once said that Anette offers more "artistic possibilities" to Nightwish music than Tarja? Yes it's the same Marco...

TheSeer wrote on 16.06.2009 at 21:37
Ans here we go again... Comments from idiots which writing novels about one sentence said... but it allways makes me laugh :)

Zyan wrote on 16.06.2009 at 21:38
@ Legeon

I totally agree with you. :D
Tarja shows more that she has fun on stage than Annette. If I have to choose between a Tarja-concert and a Nightwish-concert I will definetly go to Tarjas concert because she has a better conection to the crowd.
To the "Ice Queen"-thing I have to say that Tarja acted like one in the clips they made, but it made her look like a serious singer and she showed emotions in the way she sang the songs, for example Nemo. :)

Franziska (Germany) wrote on 16.06.2009 at 21:51
Well, I knew since the beginning that the letter wasn't written only by Tuomas. With Tarja in the band Marco was only the bassplayer and the chorus guy. Now, he is the co-singer. He wanted Tarja out, with her, all the eyes were going to her all the time, but she was the lead linger... now with Anette is different.
And talking about Tarja's distance I haven't felt that nor in the 3 shows I've seen, nor in the signing session, and what's more, she was very kind and polite.
And please, stop talking about Tarja... there's no need of this... If you don't know what to talk about, the weather is always a chance.

haatidje wrote on 16.06.2009 at 22:02
I was blind like a mole! When Marco said that Anette offers more "artistic possibilities" to Nightwish music than Tarja, he meant on himself! :-o Anette offers him to sing more.

TheSeer wrote on 16.06.2009 at 22:12
It isn't Tarja's fault Marco didn't sing much. Blame that on the one who writes the music. My. Holopainen.

Jess wrote on 16.06.2009 at 22:15
@ Zyan

I suppose that these idiots(us)are at least smarter than people who say one little sentence with no further justification or explanation.
At least i justified my opinion.Isn't you NW fans that always accuse people for saying "Anette sucks" with no arguments or statements?Why you do the same thing?
Oh,i forgot.You are Tuomas' sweethearts.So that makes you incapable of mistakes.

Legeon wrote on 16.06.2009 at 22:20
I don`t need arguments if I read your arguments. I don`t stand on the side of Tuomas and on Tarjas side neither. Nightwish died for me in 2001. I just said what I have seen and nothing else.

Zyan wrote on 16.06.2009 at 22:53
I´ve noticed every time there´s any news about Nightwish these Tarja asslickers shows up for a feeding frenzy.

Wrathchild wrote on 16.06.2009 at 23:13
@Zyan: 2001?

TheSeer wrote on 16.06.2009 at 23:18
I don`t see why they shouldn't kick Anette out of the Band... I don`t see why they shouldn't burn Tarja puppets on stage... What annoys me are people who judging about things without knowing the exact backgrounds... but it`s like a car accident... you can`t look there, but you can`t look away either.

Zyan wrote on 16.06.2009 at 23:23
@TheSeer... yeah 2001... after the Sami was kicked out and the innocent mind of Tuomas becomes twisted

Zyan wrote on 16.06.2009 at 23:26
@ Wrathchild

No,it's actually called intelligent people who can think of their own without needing Tuomas to tell them what to think.At least Tarja NEVER said anything bad about other artists.
On the other hand,NW still talk about her,making mindless fans hate her and dislike her even more.
But no,these are just fans.When people really understand how twisted NW have become,they are Tarja ass lickers.
Excellent job.

Legeon wrote on 16.06.2009 at 23:54
@ Zyan

Century Child was NW's most emotionally best album written to date and Once, even though it was not as good, still had a few amazing songs on them. We all know that Oceanborn and Wishmaster were their best, but their albums after that are not that bad. DPP is their worst IMO, but it's just okay and not awesome like their earlier work. But to me this band isn't "dead". But if they keep recieving all of this negative attention from their actions, it will led to their demise! :(

@ Legeon

This is a reply from the last post on the other article of MFF. Iron Maiden, despite a few instances of problems within the group, never had consistant nagging of media frenzy like NW has, like this article is no exception. Anytime the name "Tarja" is mentioned from anyone in the band now, they have everyone's attention, why? Because it is NW and they created such a mess. NW would have been a legendary rock/metal band like Iron Maiden, Queen, Black Sabbath and all the others. But when they did that open letter for Tarja, that put them so low and so many people turned their backs on NW. If they would have played it out better and did things differently, they would not be in this mess they created. NW did it to themselves! Almost everyone involved had a part in this and I have a feeling it's only going to get worse, especially now that Anette is making these choices on what she is doing: hiring a manager, getting a website, etc. Only time will tell of the fate of this once amazing band (they are just average now I think, good but not amazing anymore).

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 00:09
Franziska I think you are wrong.

I have seen Nightwish 5x and am going to their last gig in Helsinki. 3 of those times were with Tarja and 2x so far with Anette and I think Anette has a far better stage prescence than Tarja. Not quite as confident but that will grow with time but I feel Anette comes across as being warmer and far more interested in the crowd/fans than Tarja was.

I went to Download 2005 and I went to the Signing Tent and met Lacuna Coil and Nightwish and I got a pic taken with Cristina from Lacuna Coil and she was nice enough to lean over the table to get closer to me for the picture as I am in a wheelchair. Tarja on the other hand didn't - she nearly refused to pose for a pic all together and when she did get one taken with me she just sat in her seat and faced the camera. I knew then that Tarja had no interest in fans.

I haven't met Anette yet but from what I've heard from my friends that have say she is sweet and kind.

Toni wrote on 17.06.2009 at 00:24
Well "Legeon" Read your on comment. I rest my case.

Wrathchild wrote on 17.06.2009 at 00:42
He actually didn't insult Tarja - he said that she had another type of style that worked for her, that's it.

I also think that he must have been happy when Tarja got kicked out... I mean he always sounds so vain, egotistic, and even if I do admire him as an artist, I must say at least here in Argentina he kind of sounded like a prima donna during their show, self-centered and self-praising... of course that could be just his stage persona, after all, he's a performer and he does know how to make a great impression.

And most of the time on that show he also kept looking at Anette... I could swear I wasn't the only one thinking he must have a crush on her or something... he looked so warm and happy next to her. And there's always those almost-embarrassing compliments to her. Of course it just could be that they're actual friends. Anyway, it would be nice to have Marco displaying some sort of affection towards someone other than himself for a change. :)

Blackwood wrote on 17.06.2009 at 01:42
I love how you guys always blame the band for "talking" about Tarja. Did you ever notice that it's the interviewer who brings her up? The band members are just answering questions! And questions always seem to end up involving Tarja one way or another. Yeah, it's so Marco's fault that Tarja was brought up because he dared answer a question. People keep asking them about her! Are they supposed to blow those questions off? I'm sure you guys would start bitching about that as well.

Marco has countless other bands and projects, why in the world would he want a bigger role in Nightwish enough to want Tarja out of the band? Please. If you're not dissing Anette, then you're dissing any other Nightwish member that happens to be mentioned on this website. Get a life. If you really think so poorly of the members of Nightwish, stop reading news about them. Stop worrying about them at all! Why do you care? Is pointless speculation on the internet really going to accomplish anything for you?

I've never seen Nightwish live with Tarja, but in watching her preformances on DVD and whatnot, she did seem standoffish. I also can't believe she would change outfits four or five times during the set; that seemed a little over the top to me. I never met her, though, and I'm not going to say that I know what Marco says is true. I have seen Anette live and spoke with her in person, so I do know that she is an energetic and very friendly person. She makes jokes with the boys, dances with them on stage, and really interacts with and speaks to the crowd, at least in the two shows that I've seen during their Dark Passion Play tour. I think you guys need to go listen to Tarja or just shut up. You just look petty and silly. Stop judging.

Music is meant to be enjoyed. You're taking all of the joy out of it. Listen to the music you like, ignore the music you don't, and go about on your happy little way. Music is not about drama and speculation and analyzing or criticizing everything a band member says.

Arcana wrote on 17.06.2009 at 02:18
i find Wrathchild's comment hilarious.

Hayley wrote on 17.06.2009 at 03:01
Maybe I'm blind, but I didn't see Marco say straight up that Annette > Tarja. Furthermore, the band only mentions Tarja when the interviewer talks about it. Marco did say "I don't want to complain about either." Marco is trying to step back from this.

The scandal is over, and Tarja has moved on. So should everyone else.

I also don't think we should write off Nightwish either. Dark Passion Play is a transition album. I think the band should be judged when their next album comes out. That's when we will see how good the band really is with Tarja. "The Poet and the Pendulum" proved that Nightwish still does great songs. Let's see what happens to them.

Jeremy wrote on 17.06.2009 at 04:37
@ Arcana FINALLY!! Someone who gets it. EVERYTIME there is an article about Nightwish on Metal From Finland, EVERYONE BASHES THE BAND! You are right, LISTEN TO ANOTHER BAND OR TARJA'S SOLO PROJECT IF YOU ARE SO UPSET!!!!!! THE BAND IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR YOU OR ANYONE!!!! Also, Marco did not insult Tarja here. He was just speaking the truth about what went on. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO MOVE ON AND GET A LIFE!!!! Everywhere I go, you people put this band down consistantly and I can't read something without seeing hatred for this band! GROW UP!!!

EJ wrote on 17.06.2009 at 05:04
@ Toni

I don't know why Tarja did this to you,but when i met her in a singing session,not only she was extremely sweet with us,she also stood up and gave my husband a hug,and i got a photo of them.
It's the same with Anette,because there are people saying that she was warm with them,and they are people who say she wasn't.

@ Arcana

You don't do yourself any favor, you know.Saying to people to get a life just because they didn't come here praising NW and saying how godlike they are,but putting some critique.
And i really hate it when people judge Tarja without having seen her,especially by seeing DVDs.Has it ever occurred to you that singers aren't much able to have THAT much connection or to move around all the time in DVDs?
I have been to shows with Tarja,she had much more interaction with us than Anette.
About answering questions,you are right about that but:
1)he could have said "i won't answer to any questions about Tarja"(they have the right to demand that.)
2)he could have said "there is no comparison,they are just two different personalities".
But no,he chose to say that she was frozen and distant.Don't even think to say that it wasn't his fault,it will only make you look blindfolded.

The funny thing is that Tuomas blind followers accuse people when they criticize NW,but they don't even see NW's mistakes.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 06:23
Didn't anybody read the part "And I don?t want to complain about either"? Seriously peole, don't be such a babies...

MX wrote on 17.06.2009 at 07:18
I think NW guys miss TARJA A LOT, because they keep on talking about her all the time. :)))

Rocky wrote on 17.06.2009 at 09:06
I'm looking forward for the day there will be no comments after news about Nightwish and Anette.
Behind the band are people, human being with feelings who maybe read these posts....

OceanWithin wrote on 17.06.2009 at 09:23
Legeon and Seer are completely right, as usually.
As for me, I think that Timberlake does not let people call him "maestro", like Tuomas does. I do not remember Madonna leaving stage crying like Anette did or Britney Spears running a WEBPAGE on her own with messages about what she did cook or whitch shoes she liked like Anette does. I do not remembrer Depeche Mode ignoring their fans like NW did (see videos on youtube). I do not know about Michael Jackson forgeting his lyrics on stage like Marco did. And I do not remember Jon Bon Jovi to insult all country like Anette did. I also saw last month an interview with Tuomas where he said that Jon Bon Jovi lyrics is "a crap". How BIG of him! I am no big fan of JBJ but personally I do not remember that he did ever critize somebody like that.
But I think that IT IS VERY FUNNY that these guys consider themselfes to be "shy", "down to Earth" and "humble".
It would be interesting to be around when they start to be arogant, do not you think?
Actually, I originally thought that it is some finish way of being humble and shy, but no, HIM, Apocalyptica and other completelly finish guys are completely normal. And because you all speak of Tarja - I do not remember her to do ANY of things mentioned above, either. (Well, she was crying on stage once, but it was ON stage and she continued singing).

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 09:42
to Oceanwithin: are you really so naive?
Comments will immediately stop when they start to behave like any other normal band. If they would be as normal as Apocalyptica, there will be nothing to comment on.
But while there are not acting like normal group there is something to comment on.
I love Apocalyptica for years but they are just cool and great and that is just it, there is nothing else to say. And if you want to say that it is because they did not kick out a member, then as far as I know they actually did. And they hired another one. This happens quit often, you know?

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 09:49
It has come to a point when, if you're a fan of post Tarja Nightwish, you need to justify yourself to everyone. I sincerely don't know why I bother reading this stuff anymore.

Sin wrote on 17.06.2009 at 09:52
@ Legeon

Yeah, Marco should not have said that about Tarja (mainly due to the media attention and stuff). I don't really care if he has a bad opinion about Tarja personally, but he really dug himself a hole with the media here. He should have just refused to answer, so they could prevent any sort of issues with him and the rest of the band.

Stuff like this is what disappoints me about NW. They get themselves in trouble over b.s. comments like this. This is no different than when Tuomas claimed the fans of Brazil were chanting "Tarja, Tarja", but really weren't was just an insult to NW and the fans over there. They seriously need to shut their mouths! But that is what NW has become today. Their fame is based on issues and stupidity nowadays, like you said earlier legeon, and I agree.

@ Toni

There are plenty of fans of both NW and Tarja who feel that she truely cares about her fans. Ever see the Youtube video of Tarja singing Happy Birthday to a fan? Ever see her solo concerts and what she says and does for the fans? That singlehandedly proves that she does care. Who knows, maybe she had to go somewhere or maybe she was running out of time? Whatever the case may be, do not speculate on how she is just because she did not want to take a picture with you! She probably thought that it would not be fair to the other fans if others did not get a picture, and remember she has A LOT of fans! She does not seem like a diva to me anyways! She always seems very calm, quiet, and outgoing all at the same time. You can't always trust Tuomas words! We cannot know everything unless we were there!

Bottom line is that Marco really messed up here. He should have kept his mouth shut about Tarja. I think he is amazing as a vocalist, but this only hurts him and NW.

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 09:54
@ mermaid

I agree. When NW starts behaving like a normal band, then the media will let go but the fans will keep fighting forever now that all of this crap has escalated into what it is now. The only way it will stop is if NW breaks up or if Tarja comes back. (which I doubt will EVER happen!) Even then it probably won't end! :p

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:03
And one very good question: what will be Nightwish talking about, if they will not be talking about Tarja?
It is not just Marco, look at the botom: NIGHTWISH´s singer: "Tarja seems like a very nice and sweet person" (08.06.09) (33 comments) - it seems like Tarja is the only thing they are able to talk about. And they want to be in press, naturally.
And one more question: Who is the master passion greed, now? I have read many comments about lame, short and expensive performances, but is it still Tarja or Marcelo to blame?

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:09
To everyone here demanding people NOT to criticize NW:
1)well,it's critique.If people wouldn't criticize,there would be no point in the comments function in this site.If you just want to say how godlike they are,you can;just like the people who post their opinions(and i'm talking about explained ones).

2)People will stop criticize them when they start to act and behave like a real band.
Do you see ANY real bands go around advertising that they fired their singer with an open letter?Do you see any artists with bigger talent than Tuomas to act like him?The "lonely,shy genius"?God,Steve Harris or Lemmy are MUCH more important than him but they act like normal people.
And they certainly don't accuse their previous singer's fans for a nervous breakdown of their singer.
Here's an example.When Bruce Dickinson left Iron Maiden, MANY(if not most) fans didn't accept Blaze Bayley(but no one called them Blaze haters or Bruce stuck-ons).He was under big stress and pressure,because he wanted to prove himself(and we are talking about millions of fans,not NW fanbase).If he would EVER abandon stage,proclaiming a nervous breakdown from stress or Steve Harris accusing Bruce fans for that,i assure you that Iron Maiden wouldn't exist now.They base their success on hard work,quality songs and mostly,respect for the fans.

NW,on the other hand,seem to appreciate more the fame and fuss about them.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:16
@ mermaid

Master Passion Greed is about Marcello and how he "took" Tarja away from the band. I think of it as just a whiney boo hoo song that Tuomas could not understand that she is now with him. But who knows. We don't know all the facts, but I do know that Tuomas needs to quit writing hate songs about Marcello. Just get over it man!!! XD

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:20
One more thing:

the actual PROOF that Marco's words aren't innocent is the timing.Don't you find it suspicious that he says these things about Tarja's stage presence now,instead of when she was still in the band?
Back then NW didn't show to have ANY problem with her stage performance.All that started after she was fired,and of course their blind fans(who until then had NOTHING to say about her stage presence)adapted these opinions.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:22
@ James

The whole DDP album is a boo hoo of Tuomas,especially Poet And The Pendulum...I mean,"poor Tuomas,whose friends betrayed and mentally raped him and tortured him..." blah blah...
The whole album is a whining saga.Man,grow up.No,the whole world doesn't care about your torments,at least not enough for a whole album.
Deal with your freaking complexes and psychological issues like the rest of us do,and write something else than how innocent you are.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:26
James,
well, Nightwish became just another soap opera, something like some mexican kind of it. And there are many people who live to watch that and spend another day at work discussing it.
They do not care for music anymore but they do care for doing a front page in newspapers. There are many so called celebrities - some of them are able to do anything to be in yellow press. While we remember that, who cares? There are many professionals, who do nice music, do not faint on stage, do not leave stage crying, do not run strange webpages in order to worship themselves, do not offend countries, do not critize people who achieved a LOT more, do remember lyrics,... well, should I continue? And you do not need to call them "Maestro" :-).
Try Apocalyptica, HIM - they are normal, witty and smart, their interviews make sense (and they do not speak of Tarja). But I should say for Nightwish - they have a huge entertainment value, sure.

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:31
@ Legeon

SO TRUE! (Up the Irons btw! ;) ) NW is a very strange band. I have never seen a band give a nasty open letter to the one person who gave them fame. You are right. Iron Maiden has always made quality songs and their singers were no exception. (Bruce was always the best IMO, Paul was 2nd, and Blaze was okay, but did not fit Iron's style well.) NW is now making extremely mediocre songs (with the exception of a few) so they can hurry and sell records. Don't believe me? Listen to Oceanborn or Wishmaster, two classic metal albums of theirs and compare them to what they do now. But the reason Iron Maiden will always be better than NW is consistancy. Even in their 50's, Maiden stills rocks capacity stadiums and pleases their fans! Their stage presence is contagious, their music rocks, and they are so great to the fans and the metal community! NOW THAT IS HOW TO BE A GOOD BAND!! NW TAKE NOTES NOW!!! XD

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:32
James,
I know what Tuomas said about meaning of the song.
I just wonder who is behind band´s greed today, 2,5 years AFTER Tarja was kicked out.
While Tarja was in band, blame was on her and her manager (see open letter). She was fired because of that, too.
But who is Master Passion Greed NOW? It can not be Tarja (fired) or Marcelo (fired). SO, WHO it is NOW?

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:35
@ James

Exactly,these are the kind of bands that last for decades,and that NW should try to be like them.

Good music,respect for the crowd...And stage presence...I mean,Bruce is 51 and he runs up and down like hell...Let me remind you that Emppu did one(!) jump in a show and fans idolized him...Bruce does that kind of things in every show,during every song,and without even loosing even a single note.

A suggestion to NW:leave interviews with references to old members,hire professionals for band members(even Tuomas or Emppu don't play their songs correctly!-heard of Sahara?) that can take the success and the pressure,BAN them to have blogs talking about earrings(BTW,Anette in her blog seems so freaking desperate;there was a post the other day,saying that "people say i'm fat,am i"?
Like "tell me how gorgeous i am".)
and make good music.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:41
@ Legeon

Yeah, I have always wondered why Tuomas inserted his name in that song! It sounds sort of egotistical if you ask me! XD You are exactly right! Tuomas just got so whiny and silly about everything! He needs to grow up and quit being such a little baby about his life! No one wants to hear his bitching and moaning! XD I mean a METAL BAND doesn't write songs about being upset all the time and stuff! (sounds like an emo band, but NW isn't that so let's not go there! XDDDD)

@ mermaid

Yeah, they seem to drive their success off of stupid b.s. They are being such fools nowadays! STOP THE DRAMA AND JUST MAKE GOOD MUSIC!!!!

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:43
@ mermaid

Maybe the DEVIL IS THE MASTER PASSION GREED!!!! AHHAHAHA LOL!!

No just kidding! Seriously though, after learning that NW signed with a water company, I got a little suspious about that. So yeah, it could be NW or Tuomas after all. Who knows..

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:46
What I REALLY enjoyed about "lonely shy oceansoul Maestro Tuomas Holopainen" (sorry, but he is the only one Maestro I know, so I can not resist)
was not only the interview about JBJ doing crap (all his life, poor Jon, but it is good that Maestro explained him now, so at least the rest of his life could not be wasted)
BUT the interview where Maestro said that he gaves to his fans few years of life by just talking to them.
Which means that Finland is not a particularly religios country because otherwise he would get it. :-)

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:46
@ Legeon

NW needs to regroup. That is the bottom line. They need a better management team who can coach them on what to say. Who the hell is their P.R. person??? Where the hell has he been???? It just looks like Master Passion Greed to me.....

James wrote on 17.06.2009 at 10:51
James,

as lonely, shy oceansoul Maestro Tuomas Holopainen says in the video on new DVD (I just saw that on youtube, do not own this DVD and not going to buy it) - "Nightwish is a pyramid and I am at top of it". So, he is the boss, as he clearly states.
In the book he said that many times, too. Hightwish is his band. That is it.
But you should admit it: THEY ARE FUNNY.

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 11:00
@ James

Exactly,he should just stop behaving like a little emo boy.I mean honestly,he is famous,he does his favorite job,he doesn't have to do a job that he doesn't like,he is rich,he has thousands of girls that you instantly die for him if he asked them to,but he can't deal with his artificial(and superficial) depression.

(and before any of you say that money doesn't make you happy:
1)no they don't,but they help a lot
2)tell that to the people who don't have money)

Tuomas says that he has little respect for himself,but the truth is just the opposite;he has a very big idea for himself.He thinks that he is a poet(when he actually copies other people's poems),he thinks he is the Hans Zimmer of metal,he thinks that he has saved lives...
But he can't deal with a pseudo betrayal.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 11:01
Legeon
this is just a pose. Maestro is SO SUFFERING that all these teenage girls would love to die fror him. Which is, off course, the point of teenage girls, after all.

James,
I can not stand some songs from DPP (and PaP is one of them) - they just make me wondering if some people are quite ok in their heads. It is like that song from Madonna ("rap") where she "sings" like she has like 4 houses, 3 nurses, 2 drivers, etc. and in the end is a message: but her life is even so difficult.

This sort of philosofical, ethical, moral, sociological, political, etc. messages do not get me. As for me - value added is the same like in famous BS song: Baby, baby, one more time...

And BTW - no normal emo band will sing shit, either.

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 13:33
And one more thing - on youtube you could see the whole document worshiping Maestro - it is called Maan Mainiot (do not worry, english subtitles).
So, all of you who need to be explained how very shy, lonely, downtoearth, noble, modest and humble this oceansoul is, please, have a look.
It is in 6 parts, total like 4O minutes, but maybe you will get it.

mermaid wrote on 17.06.2009 at 13:38
@EJ

I don't like NW much since Once, but I read this new because I'm a Tarja fan and they talk about Tarja. It's exactly what mermaid says, they are talking all the time about Tarja instead of talking about their music.
Someone said tha he only answers the question about Tarja, but that's not valid, he could avoid it just like Tarja does.

haatidje wrote on 17.06.2009 at 13:43
*wondering what a "normal" band should be like*

Comments like the ones sometimes posted against Anette or the band applied to a "working" environement are considered as mobbing. Mobbing is considered in the juridiction I'm living in as "crime" against the law....By constant attacks, the vicitim of mobbing is subject to severe psychological stress leading to irreversible damages in the daily life...please think about that.

I prefere reading detailed descriptions of Anette feces after 5 bourritos on her blog than continuing reading "offending" crap on MFF which I considered once as one of the best metal sites around.

I suggest you all get a life and get ONCE FOR ALL OVER THE SPLIT!

Ocean

OceanWithin wrote on 17.06.2009 at 14:21
Well I think the interviewers just have to stop comapring, if they do that probably we don't hear so much about the Tarja - Anette thing there still is... Just accept it or don't listen to it anymore...

DutchGuy wrote on 17.06.2009 at 16:31
@Mermaid
I think I have seen the videos from Maan Mainiot series.. the first was the one where Tuomas (during watching End of an era) said, that he wanted to hug the guys and Tarja right in that time, right? I´ve really ended up rolling on the floor laughing, his "bittersweet feelings" and so on, it was SUCH hypocrisy... and the second video, the part when Tuomas chopped wood... that was too much for me, I had to stop watching it otherwise I would have broken my pc screen :D

Daniela wrote on 17.06.2009 at 16:50
Once again, some of the commenters decide to read way too much into this simple interview. Get over it.

Jon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 17:46
I don´t understand what so horrible Marco said. He described both Tarja´s and Anette´s ways to act on stage, and in my opinion the descriptions were pretty accurate. Any fool can see that Tarja and Anette act differently on stage (and that affects on Marco´s performance too), so why shouldn´t Marco say it? He didn´t say that he prefered Anette either, quite the opposite actually: "And I don?t want to complain about either". So where all this drama again came from?

From my point of view, the problem here isn´t NW members presumably saying bad things about Tarja, but the fans reading every article about NW with a magnifying glass. It´s somewhat the same thing what media usually does with celebrities: twist their every word and read between the lines something what necessarily isn´t even there, until the end result is something totally different than what the original message was supposed to be. You see the things you want to see, if you try hard enough.

In my opinion the band should not stop answering questions about Tarja, since she is big part of NW´s history. Instead, the fans should learn how to deal with the answers the band members give without always starting a big NW vs. Tarja debate. ;)

Zolena wrote on 17.06.2009 at 18:13
Marco should have avoided to answer the same way like Tarja. Whenever journalists ask her something about Nightwish she replies "I wish them all the best. That's all I have to say".

mermaid said: "I just wonder who is behind band´s greed today, 2,5 years AFTER Tarja was kicked out."

2.5 years? Tarja was kicked out in 2005, it's been almost 4 years. Time flies... ;-)

Legeon said: "BTW,Anette in her blog seems so freaking desperate;there was a post the other day,saying that "people say i'm fat,am i"?"

XD XD XD XD

Answer to Anette that those people are probably "die hard" Tarja fans and Nightwish haters and that she can freely double her schnitzel portions. :-p

James said: "Yeah, I have always wondered why Tuomas inserted his name in that song!"

Did you know that the 1st version of TPATP had part in the lyrics something like "do you want to rape my rotten carcass, desecrate my rest? That would make you cum wouldn't it?" but Nuclear Blast forced Tuomas to omit it. I think the question was directed to, surprise, surprise, Tarja.

Btw do you know what is the single TRUE thing Tuomas have ever said? That line in Deep Silent Complete: "The age will say this poet lies". :-D

TheSeer wrote on 17.06.2009 at 18:15
I can't believe how many haters there are here. NO ONE is forcing you to listen to Nightwish. LIsten to another band if you are so upset!!!! It's okay to have an opinion, but don't you guys think that this is taken too extreme over something so little and insignificant?!?! Marco is fine. He did not insult Tarja. All he commented on was her stage presence!!! All of you guys need to grow up and move on if this band is pissing you all off!!! It is that simple folks...

EJ wrote on 17.06.2009 at 19:10
You know, I get really irritated when people think they can put words in my mouth. I'm sorry, Legeon sweety, but point out where I said Nightwish was "godlike?" Excuse me? I listen to music for the pleasure of music. Just because I don't analyze everything a band member says means you're better than me? Honestly? Please keep in mind that I said plainly that I -do not- know about Tarja's live preformance or her interaction with the fans at shows. :) I didn't claim to be an expert, because I'm not. I can't judge Tarja; I've never met her. Nightwish didn't come to the US so much when she was the lead singer of the band, and I got into Nightwish right after "Once" was released, so the opportunity of seeing her live was cut pretty short since she was fired not long after. I have experience with Anette, both in meeting her and at shows. I'm stating what I have seen from those experiences. You're making assumptions, and you do know where 'assume' gets you, right? ;) What I see in the comments of this website is not criticism by any means; it's bashing and speculation, usually about how long Anette will last in Nightwish or something about Tarja, again. I don't really see why these are things people should be talking about anyway.

If you're going to give honest criticism to a BAND, then it should be about their MUSIC. That's what bands do, they make music, but I never see talk of Nightwish's music, good or bad, in these comments. I see, "blah blah blah Tarja, blah blah blah Anette is stuck up, blah blah blah Marco bashed Tarja omg!" If you want to say Nightwish's music sucks now because of Anette, and you can say it in a "critical" way, then please, be my guest. But I really think that people who want to throw a hissy fit over something one band member says in an interview just need to leave, and people who want to talk about Tarja need to go to a place meant for Tarja. You're whining about her being mentioned in this interview, but then you're still talking about her in the comments.

I liked Tarja with Nightwish; after finally finding a Nightwish album, "Once", in a store in my area, I ordered all of their older albums online before the split. I still love that music. However, I do like "Dark Passion Play" and Anette as well; it's different, but I can still enjoy it. The fact of the matter is that I cannot change anything that has happened with Nightwish and its singer. Fans don't seem to grasp that saying how great Tarja is and how much better they were with her isn't going to change that she is no longer a part of this band. Tarja is making her own music now, and Nightwish is continuing with theirs. If you're a fan of the older stuff, keep listening to it; I do. I listen to the new stuff, too. I'm sorry, but being at every news post about Nightwish, trying to find something to "criticize", which is not what these comments are doing, seems a little obsessive. If you -are- criticizing, then it's the behavior of Nightwish's band members, but I still don't grasp how this is so important that you need to come and leave countless comments about it. Music isn't about what the members of Nightwish say in interviews. As long as their "behavior" doesn't stop them from making music that I can enjoy, I'll keep listening to them for the music. And if Nightwish -does- get torn apart by all these little things you guys speculate about, then I'll enjoy the albums they have made and go on with life. I've got plenty of other amazing bands to listen to that will keep making music, regardless.

I've really got no more time or focus to waste here save for this last comment. I also know I'll see this mess again the next time something about Nightwish is posted here on Metal From Finland. In the end and in terms of these comments, it just seems to me that Tarja and Nightwish should be completely separated and be considered two very different musical artists, never to be mentioned around each other. It's been long enough; talk about beating a dead horse.

Arcana wrote on 17.06.2009 at 20:27
Clearly NW guys are really enjoying to talk about their ex-singer. )))
So when die-hard NW fans would start complaining why someone is mentioning Turunen once again the answer is simple - NW's members are still talking about her in full instead of giving some short general answer.
BTW, Marco seems to develop some Prima donna attitude either? Lol.

Sam wrote on 17.06.2009 at 21:56
Bloody hell Get over it children

Please stop bitching about both Anette and Tarja and Nightwish

Whats done, done, clearly they all moved on, its about time ever one else did and stop bitching about the whole nightwish thing

Strange Butterfly wrote on 17.06.2009 at 21:58
Strange Butterfly

Nope, unfortunately you are wrong.
To move on means you STOP talking widely about this past you are supposed to leave back. There are ways to answer such questions, either in short, or in long way. It depends only on person to choose which way and clearly Marco does want to answer "in long way". It appears he doesn't move on cause he again and again stresses this past as wide as can be. That's facts, unfortunately.

Coil fan wrote on 17.06.2009 at 22:07
@ Strange Butterfly

Tell NW that.Obviously,they are the ones still talking about Tarja.
They may be doing some social experiment with us,you know.They throw something about Tarja to see reactions.

Legeon wrote on 17.06.2009 at 22:08
OMG, NW is still opened to talk on ex-singer?! NW sometimes seems to me a bunch of clowns. Or they just want extra attention. Show-offs ((((

Alyse wrote on 17.06.2009 at 22:14
read those comments during exam is better than look at "telenovelas"!!! I already said that but :mermaid, legeon and the others, if you don't like nightwish anymore and if tuomas upset you, stop reading about them and just listen to the old NW ant to Tarja solo. People you aren't in NW's staff or in their family so you don't know them, stop judging them via the media and the answers wich are interpreted by the journalist and (most of all) by the fans! so goodnight children, i guess we'll read each others for the next NW news!

Elise wrote on 17.06.2009 at 22:21
Now Marco is actingl ike a diva, lol)))))

Unia wrote on 19.06.2009 at 15:30
To Unia:

Marco is a Finnish metal god dude. That is such crap that you called him a diva... If anything, he should be praised as one for everything he has done to help mold Finland into the metal scene. If it wasn't for Tarot, we would have no NW or any metal band worth mentioning in Finland.... So think about that before you talk about Marco like that...

marcoisgod wrote on 20.06.2009 at 04:38
oh, please. no one is deminishing his artistic value, which is indeed very big.
BUT, it's not a mystery that his decision to join Nightwish in 2002 was purely due to opportunism and greed. He actually despises pre-Century Child Nightwish music. His heart is with Tarot, and Nightwish for him is a mere way of making as much money as he can. the more mainstream Nightwish becomes, the better. The more limited in range the new Nightwish singer is, the more he can steal her spotlight. No wonder he seems to be the most happy to have Anette. And, furthermore, as long as Nightwish are succesful he really has the right to do as he pleases. Who wouldn't do the same in his shoes?
What's actually funny is the fact that 4 years ago he signed a ridicously pompous "open" letter accusing someone else of being opportunistic.
Also, in this letter there was written something like "Nightwish is an emotion for us" *insert sarcastic laughter*
Marco is an amazing musician, and that's a fact. An extremely opportunistic, greedy AND hypocritical one. Another fact.

hrxn wrote on 20.06.2009 at 12:42
@ hrxn

Amen.

Legeon wrote on 20.06.2009 at 13:07
Marco also didn't want to tour with Sinergy so he got fired. He told to Kimberly Goss that he likes Sinergy more than Nightwish but that Nightwish brings him more money. And that is the SAME Marco who repeatedly accused Tarja of being greedy and opportunistic. ;-)

TheSeer wrote on 20.06.2009 at 16:01
hrxn: THAT is entire speculation. Without hard evidence, you have NO RIGHT to call him that. I'm ashamed, tbh. Think about stuff before you post it. Try and cultivate something- that something is a conscience.

Jon wrote on 20.06.2009 at 16:38
@ Jon

Why should that apply only to Marco?NW have ANY evidence that Tarja was behaving like a diva?Even the famous Oslo show which supposedly Tarja wanted to cancel,was told to Tarja two days before,and she had already planned her solo rehearsals...
Again,did NW had the right to denigrate Tarja like that to the whole world?
Did they THINK what this would do to her or they were too busy thinking how much fame the letter would (and did) bring them?

Answer me that.

Legeon wrote on 20.06.2009 at 16:51
I am so upset at all of you people here!!!! Now Marco is greedy?!?! How do you know that, were you ever there for the interviews or what he thought when he joined Nightwish? He never once said that he joined Nighwish for the money, and even if he did, wouldn't you take the opportunity if a big named band asked you to join them? COME ON PEOPLE, THINK ABOUT IT!!!! I know I would. Tarot is not as big as Nightwish and his addition to the band helped his band get bigger which is good for both bands. hrxn, how do you know that he hates Nightwish's music before he joined the band??? Where did you hear that from?? The official book perhaps?? IDK. But I am so upset at all of you, but mostly mermaid, Legeon, James, and hrxn because all you guys do is come on Metal From Finland and put down Nightwish consistantly!!!! I am sick of this crap you guys say about this band and everything! Seriously, you people need to quit bitching about this band and MOVE ON TO ANOTHER BAND!!! There are THOUSANDS OF BANDS out there for you to like, not just Nightwish! They are not going to do everything you want them to do! Just don't read about them here anymore if you are so damn upset!!! Obviously you guys still like Nightwish otherwise you won't be here right??? Tell me if I am wrong! But this will be my last post but please I want to be able to read a Nightwish article without a bunch of haters!!!! X(

Also, for all of those Marco haters here, if it wasn't for Tarot (and Stratovarious), Nightwish would NOT exist today! I agree with marcoisgod, Tarot was one of the first Finnish metal bands and you guys need to pay respect for him and his band! Okay, I am done here. Goodbye.

EJ wrote on 20.06.2009 at 19:41
@ The Seer,hrxn, and Legeon

You guys are unbelievable. Who cares if he wants to make more money! I just want to hear good music! You guys speculate way too much on the issues with this band. And I don't want to hear a reply like "oh, Marco did this, Marco did that" because that is just silly and stupid. He is an amazing vocalist and he seems to be very happy in NW so just leave the band and him alone. Also, wouldn't you take an opportunity like that anyways if NW wanted to ask you to be in their band? (same thing goes with any major band) Jeez, you guys are being ridiculus..

Wow... wrote on 20.06.2009 at 20:14
well saying that Marco is greedy just because he accepted offer from NW to become a member is bit weird. Why on earth than Tarja agreed to continue with NW after CC when she decided to leave the band already and wasnt happy with the band???. It is more than clear that she stayed just because of the increasing popularity not only in Germany but also in other countries. And I didnt made it up in my mind just read NW biography. I am not saying that Tuomas & the rest of the band is innocent BUT Tarja is not also, so dont keep just her side. And about the Oslo gig. Well if you´ll read one day biography than you will learn that this Oslo stuff wasn´t the only one gig which had to be cancelled due to Tarjas other commitments. I mean gig in Austria where they could have opened for Metallica in front of 50 000ppl!! But according to her lovely husband the fee wasn´t to his taste so they cancelled the show. And another greedy example of M&T Epica had to play in Hartwall Arena BUT because of the 5 thousand fee and the travel expenses they didn´t play. So tell me what the hell is this. Hartwall was sold out! And fees for Epica will ruin the NW??? Give me a break. So greedy greedy who is greedy now?? hmm?? But don´t think now that I hate Tarja I am just giving you examples of what is for me greed. So I am going to see Tarja soon and I hope she won´t screw up like the last time I saw her. And this stuff that she is interactive with fans well the last time I saw her she said like 2 sentences during the gig and when we waited for her to get autographs she already left the place. So this time I hope for more luck :D and that Marco should comment about Tarjas stage persona when she was in NW. WTF?? what are you expecting from him to say at the and of the interview and PS Tarjas stage persona is blah blah blah....gee..AND there was no insulting from Marcos side. You should really read EVERYTHING to the end. OR just let it be and enjoy life.

Lizzie wrote on 20.06.2009 at 20:16
@ Lizzie

What kind of delirium was this?Please calm down,no one here is upset,we just criticize them.
I don't know what happened to you at the Tarja show,but in mine she was great,she was constantly talking between songs and had arranged a singing session the previous day were when i reached her she stood up(when artists almost never do that when they have dozens of fans waiting)and hugged me and my husband.

NW biography considered a reliable source is just funny.Do you think it tells the truth?What would a book released AFTER the letter say?That NW lied?

To the rest of you,take a break,and think.You believe that only die-hard fans can come here and comment?Well, i was that kind of fan,and i never had the elitists' opinion that only people like me could criticize them.Because die-hard fans don't find anything to criticize,so what's the point?
BTW,there's no regulation in the commenting function saying that only die-hard fans can comment.

Legeon wrote on 20.06.2009 at 23:42
And it's funny how you people are so eager to believe and say that Tarja was/is a diva,based on NW biography),but when someone says anything about your precious band,you instantly feel like it is the utmost insult.

The fact that he is big name in Finland doesn't mean that he is a saint.

Legeon wrote on 20.06.2009 at 23:46
I notice everyone also blames the "Tarja-hype" on the band members during interviews. But you all need to stop tearing each other's throats out and concentrate on what you're fighting over for a second: it's always the interviewer asking about Tarja. Marco didn't bring her up, whoever was interviewing him did. And once the name is mentioned, that's it, pick your poison. He can either say nothing or "no comment," which leads to endless, pointless rumors, or he can tell the truth and have everyone go at it like pirahnas over a carcass in the water. Now, if I was Marco, I would pick the truth, simply because it means LESS people will go crazy over something. Please, grow up, people, and stop taking things so personally. You don't like it, there is a "back" button on your computer. Find it, and click on it.

TheVoiceInYourHead wrote on 21.06.2009 at 03:58
@ Legeon

Marco is not a saint and I agree, but he is not as bad as you make him out to be either! But come on, I don't mind if you criticise something to a point, but you and a few others here are taking something so small way too far. Just calm down a little, it's only an interview :). And I am not claiming that you have to be a die-hard fan to comment here either. I am a fan and I disagree with some things this band is doing, but I will not put silly comments while bashing the band based on some stupid little interview along with a bunch of speculations that may not be true. Anytime this band says something you guys blow it up out of proportion. You are being silly with your continous, meaningless debates that are getting you no where. Just worry about what you need to do in your life and let Nightwish worry about theirs... enough said! :)

Wow.. wrote on 21.06.2009 at 06:50
EJ said: ?Now Marco is greedy?!?! How do you know that, were you ever there for the interviews or what he thought when he joined Nightwish? He never once said that he joined Nighwish for the money, and even if he did, wouldn't you take the opportunity if a big named band asked you to join them??

And Tarja doesn?t have the same rights like Marco?

EJ said: ?Seriously, you people need to quit bitching about this band and MOVE ON TO ANOTHER BAND!!!?

Find me another band who fired their member via public letter and I?ll gladly move on to it.

EJ said: ?Also, for all of those Marco haters here, if it wasn't for Tarot (and Stratovarious), Nightwish would NOT exist today!?

Also, for all of those Tarja haters here, if it wasn?t for her, Nightwish wouldn?t become a metal band. Tuomas stated that repeatedly during the old era. He said that her voice was too strong for accoustic guitars so he and Emppu decided to get electric ones and to find a drummer.

Wow said: ?You guys are unbelievable. Who cares if he wants to make more money! I just want to hear good music!?

And who cares when Tarja, allegedly, wants to make more money? Everybody.

TheSeer wrote on 21.06.2009 at 10:07
well first of all I gave you my opinion of what is greed for me when there was a comment that Marco is greedy.
Second of all I read the biography and I tell you that there is also Tarjas wiews of point on everything what happened so how it was with the Oslo gig her statement after dismissal etc. so its not only positive about Tuomas there is also criticism towards him so :) but if the biography is full of lies than definitely Tarja would do something with that :)
third of all I dont think that they are saint and I dont like the way how they fired Tarja they should really do it other way but why not to criticise Tarja also. It was more than obvious that they have big problems. So why she decided do one more album and than quit? They should sit and annouced it together that could be way better.
And no I am not die-hard fan of NW otherwise I wont go on Tarjas gig and will be commenting all over the net how shitty her album is and she sucks. No she dosent even I think she can do a lot better album but it was her first so I believe that the next will be better (I like Enough but only live version).
So do I believe that next NW album will be better :)

Lizzie wrote on 21.06.2009 at 12:25
@ TheVoiceInYourHead

I'm sorry but your argument is pointless,because whenever someone asks Tarja about NW,she says "i wish them the best,that's all i've got to say". And no fuss is created.
Marco could have said "i can't compare,they are just different.Next question" and it would be just fine.But he preferred to say that Tarja was distant.
And i would like to inform you that before ANY interview,the artist has the right to ask the interviewer not to ask him about certain things.

Legeon wrote on 21.06.2009 at 14:21
You guys will never let up will you? Just forget about it and move on will ya? I mean you are making a mountain out of a molehill. VoiceInYourHead is right you need to stop taking what NW does so personally and get a life!!

Wow.. wrote on 21.06.2009 at 18:05
I wonder when NW members really would move on, cause they jump on every opportunity to speak about their ex-singer ))).
They are obviosly like to talk about her, otherwise they would give small general replies on that matter. It's very lame from their side.

Rosy wrote on 21.06.2009 at 18:45
Guys, you might be die-hards and screem as much as you could, but facts are just facts.
Look at this band and you will just see. Maestro can not play his songs properly, Marco does not remember lyrics, etc, etc. - so, clearly, they live for their musics ONLY. And they signed contract with water company because greedy bad Marcelo and Tarja made them. And if you believe this, you most probably believe that Moon is on its journey pushed by a fairy called Sophraphomus.
There is no point in waking you up from your dreaming.
To Legeon: it must be difficult to be so in love - not with NW - but with romantical imagine of NW as some people here are. I am in much better position, though, because when I started to listen to this sort of music, people around me actually believed there is something wrong with me as far as I am fan of "satanic" music. Now, so many years after, they have adapted. Well, I deserved some respect in-between, so now I am just considered to be a bit excentric because of music I listen to. :-)
My point is that we are still in Europe and NOBODY HERE KNOWS NW.
Actually, i do not know why Wow things I am still fan of NW? I was not married to them, you know, so I did not have to divorce them. Naturally, I did not buy new DVD and as for the last CD I said already it was a dissapointment.
Still, they are producing quite funny soap opera staff, do not think so? As was mentioned many times already - to stop all comments they just need to behave as any other normal band. But WHILE they would produce this "extras", they WILL receive feedback on it. And not necessarily the possitive ones. Just wait and see.
Daniela: Just watch all Maan Mainiot so you will see what " shy, humle, down-to-earth Oceansoul" Maestro Tuomas Holopainen means by that. :-)

mermaid wrote on 22.06.2009 at 12:00
Listen guys! I started to listen to NW from DPP! I loved it! I couldn't even listen at first to the older CDs because of the different voice. I was not interested in that previous singer at all and thought NW behaved perfectly on her matter. But after reading to all this interviews where guys constantly speak about her in details, trying to explotate her...sorry my bad english, to use this as a tool for them to look perfect and all this mess with Annette hiring manager, opening her web site which doesn't give any reall useful informaton, all this celebrity attitude around band which is poping up higher and higher. Very dissapointing I must say. I do not think I like what they are doing now. And I started as a New Era fan!

NWfan wrote on 22.06.2009 at 14:28
Legeon...seriously...where exactly he insulted Tarja or said Anette is better than her?
Im a Tarja fan..and still I don't see any insult.

Guys...you read too much between the lines sometimes

Phantom wrote on 29.06.2009 at 15:26
Arcana: He doesn't need to answer. Tarja brushes questions about new Nightwish off, too. The drama is made by the band, not by us. We're just criticising what we see is going wrong.

Still Arcana: Nightwish is much bigger than his own projects. Tarot isn't nearly the same league as Nightwish, commercially.

OceanWithin: We are human beings with feelings too. Tarja and Marcelo are people with feelings too.

EJ, Arcana, Elise: If you can't stomach criticism, IGNORE IT. Man, you are so touchy. Stop whining. Get a life. LISTEN TO YOUR OWN ADVICE. It goes both ways!

MX: He criticises her, and then says he doesn't want to complain about her. What a hypocrite.

Sin: No, you don't have to justify yourself. Just shut up and move on if you don't like discussions.

I've read that Jukka couldn't stand Tarja, either. But certainly, Marco and Tuomas have profited most.

Jon, EJ: It isn't speculation. See TheSeer's posting. And it's not that I might never do the same (although I would have a guilty conscience about it), it's because he accuses others of valuing money over music.

Lizzie: THAT is speculation. The book is obviously slanted against Marcelo in particular. But you guys complain about us, saying that we haven't been present at everything?

TheVoiceInYourHead: Nope. Tarja says "no comment", and it works.

OceanWithin: ROTFL. Since when can these comments be considered mobbing? I doubt Anette even reads them. I can give you an example of mobbing, though. 4 years ago, there was this huge concert ...

Zolena: Subtext, timing.

Tuomas is a freaking emo, and DPP is emo to the core, I agree.

Tuomas could be a rapper. :D

Almagest wrote on 30.06.2009 at 00:51
NW it seems will never move on. They are now a bunch of arrant hypocrites who like to care about scandals not about music anymore.

*** wrote on 02.07.2009 at 11:39
I can't wait for tarja's second album and nightwishes new album to come out.

Missay wrote on 07.07.2009 at 08:07
Missay has got it right - we will see new albums.

Maybe this is just made up in a way, to keep fans attention while they will be doing next album - it worked last time, too.

They did not want to risk that within TWO YEARS till the new album was done fans would forget them. And they have been right about that.

mermaid wrote on 07.07.2009 at 16:21
OH, WTF. "drink too much and sign some autographs." you did more than that Marco! You were in my town!!! XD

Michelle wrote on 29.07.2009 at 01:18

NIGHTWISH: Marco Hietala interview "I have started singing more since Anette joined the band"

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