NIGHTWISH's HIETALA: TARJA Ended Up Thinking She 'Way Too Valuable' Compared To Rest Of Band

23.11.2008

Steven Rosen of Ultimate-Guitar.com recently conducted an interview with bassist/vocalist Marco Hietala of the Finnish/Swedish symphonic metallers NIGHTWISH. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: What was it like working with [former NIGHTWISH singer] Tarja Turunen?

Marco: Well, working with Tarja at first was really easy; she was — at least at the time — she was down to earth like a Finnish country girl and we were Finnish country boys. So, pretty easy. I still think that basically what led to the breakup was she listened to some really bad advice from her husband and ended up thinking she, as herself, is way too valuable compared to us. And [that] they can dictate the rules. However, it wasn't that way. We didn't put up with it and that's it.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: What was that process like in replacing Tarja? Did you think it was going to be an impossible task or did you feel secure that you could find someone pretty easily?

Marco: It was really funny because I think we got over 2,000 demos and we basically listened to all of them. I think I listened to something like 700 myself. What I found out was there were like a lot of potential singers, a lot of good singers, but people who were still wet behind the ears. So, in order to grow into the band they would need like one or two albums and probably would have done well after that. But of course we wanted to have somebody who would have the sounds down immediately. And this is how we ended up with Anette [Olzon] because she sounds like she had her thing down; she had a lot of energy to pull out and a high voice that has this really good like a tone of her own.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: What were some of the early recording sessions like with Anette? Was it a simple thing to work her into the framework of the band?

Marco: We basically had like instrumental versions of the old albums and she sang over them. Then we kind of invited her over to Finland to a rehearsal room and did some of those live and could hear that, "OK, she can do it." And then we moved with like a few of the demos that we've done for the upcoming album which eventually became "Dark Passion Play" and she sang those over. We were pleased.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: So, when she was actually in the studio and the record button was pushed, you knew that you had made the right decision in bringing her into NIGHTWISH?

Marco: Pretty much, yeah. Well, I guess we had a few songs from the new stuff and she went over them and we were really pleased. She could keep the tone, have the strength and have the sensitivity and all those things in between and everything. So, yeah.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: And then logically, let's talk about how the tracks themselves were recorded. The first single from "Dark Passion Play" was "Eva", a symphonic ballad with strings and piano and horns. There is a brilliant modulation following the solo and every aspect of the instrumentation screams epic. In fact, the classical instruments are recorded completely separate from the guitars and drums, correct?

Marco: Well, the studio process for "Eva" and for the whole album was, when we still didn't have a singer, we still spent two months in the summer of 2006, going over the stuff, rehearsing it and everything and discussing about what kinds of like orchestral stuff we would like to have on it. Even though mainly Tuomas [keyboards], of course, he writes the music and all the lyrics, (there was) some musical input from me and Emppu, the guitar player, as well. After some while after that, we got into the studio and started recording things. You know, what basic studio work is: You do like bottom line where you try to play as much as you can with the whole and then you're starting to go over bass tracks and guitar tracks and stuff; dubbing and doing like new stuff, keyboard stuff. And then the guys go to this orchestra and Abbey Road Studios for it in London. I was pretty pissed because I had to miss it; I was doing some vocal arranging and producing for AMORPHIS, if you know the band? That thing, it got stretched and we had to book four more days and everything so in the end, I missed the Abbey Road because of that. But from the guys I heard that it was pretty really amazing to hear like your stuff by played by real, real goddamned professionals! Still, about the studio thing as well, we had basically all the orchestral stuff recorded before we actually took Anette then into the studio to record the whole album. And, of course, I think it was something that she was a little bit scared but still managed to do a really good job. And by the time we get to the next one and everything, I think she'll be more involved in the whole like thing when we rehearse and arrange the whole stuff together. This time, she didn't really have a chance for it.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: We touched before on the heart of NIGHTWISH's music and that was good songs. But it's more than that — the music is smart without sounding overbearing; it challenged the listener. The band is like an acquired taste — it requires multiple listenings to really understand everything that is going on.

Marco: That is something I agree on. For instance, "Dark Passion Play" is pretty heavy to take on in one listen. And to be honest, in the process of making and listening to it multiple times, I kind of found myself into it. Even though we had done real rehearsing for a long time, but still, getting it down, getting all the instruments, the orchestras, the choirs, getting vocals and everything, it grew onto me. And even though I had a great trust for the whole project, even when we started it and I heard some demo songs from Tuomas and he heard mine, we had this kind of trust, "OK, we're gonna build this into something really good." But then again, the end always seems to surpass the expectations.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: Have you thought at all about a new album?

Marco: Yeah, I know that Tuomas has some songs; I've got some stuff that when we get off of tour, I should demo at home. We'd like to start exchanging some CDs and stuff and see what comes out of it.

Ultimate-Guitar.com: And something you referred to earlier, that this would be Anette's second album with NIGHTWISH and that you think her involvement will be much greater.

Marco: Yeah, that is true. This time around we were just trying to find out where we were in the woods so to speak because we really didn't know that. From the demos we had some inclination about what kind of ranges and what kind of keys we would use for the songs and all that. But this time, it'll be a lot easier; we can walk her straight to the business when we start out.

Read the entire interview from Ultimate-Guitar.com.

Fan-filmed video footage of NIGHTWISH's November 21, 2008 concert at Obras in Buenos Aires, Argentina can be viewed below (clips uploaded by "Luchoevolution").

"Amaranth":

"The Poet And The Pendulum":

"The Siren":

Source: Blabbermouth.net

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Everyone can talk sh*t after the bad is done. Talking bad about Tarja just proves the contrary. I don't have anything against them, I appreciate Tuomas for he is pure talent. And go on, Tarja. Now I can see that the fact of leaving Nightwish was a good step. No I really can say it an believe it. She is a musician and an artist and she on her own is more than 3 Nightwish all together. Nothing compares to this and this is the truth. I want to see if one of them (Marco, Tuomas) were in Tarja's place, to do what the others want and just shut up and sing what they want, would they like it? Of course not.
Go on Tarja, NOW everyone can see who you are and how valuable you are.

Sharon wrote on 23.11.2008 at 23:36
Tarja bad guy, we good guys. Always the same story.

JouxJoux wrote on 23.11.2008 at 23:57
It's more like "the guys" didn't like it that a woman was getting more attention from the fans than they were, and they didn't like it that Tarja wouldn't accept any and every unreasonable demand they placed upon her.

That's why Anette is falling apart, her voice is almost gone due to the overextended tour schedule, where she's way too afraid to tell the band she can't perform that many shows over such a long period of time.

She doesn't want to end up getting an "open letter" of her own.

What a bunch of pitiful selfish pricks.

YoudLikeToKnow wrote on 24.11.2008 at 02:00
God, aren't you all tired of that Tarja thing? This subject already stinks. You talk about it over and over again. Does somebody know any computer program that could automatically delete all stuff that has a word "tarja"?

* wrote on 24.11.2008 at 08:17
Hey people...you don't know nothing!You only believe everything what exploit your opinions and minds.You don't know absolutely nothing what happened inside the band because you wasn't there so don't try to be too "wise".You can talk,talk,talk...and blame someone but believe me that's not gonna change nothing.Tarja and the boys didn't get along and that's it.All the members of the band don't care a shit about your opinions and thoughts because they only know the REAL TRUTH. Life is sometimes shit because you can't get what you want or wish so let it be!

RockMan wrote on 24.11.2008 at 08:36
To anonymous, no we are not tired. Cause the NW guys keep talking about it over and over again and look at the name of this article. Who is pointing out the Tarja's name,ah? Not any of us. I agree with three posts in the beginning- again, they are nice and innocent, and blame everything on other party (like this incident with Annette in Brazil, though in videos it is not seen or heard, not any sight of it, duh).
If they were not to blame they wouldn't have talked about it all the time. They are so low.

Quietus wrote on 24.11.2008 at 12:12
Oh oh !!!

So Tarja says that She and Tuomas must to have an very adult and mature conversation, but then Marco says she was too WANNABE?

I kind of have a feeling that Nightwish is going down to the tubes. Who's telling the truth ? Is there any secret about Tuomas and Tarja have a thing for each other ? Not for me.

The band is splitting out and not for Annette's fault.

Melissa wrote on 24.11.2008 at 12:59
Nightwish are low? You guys are low. They are all nice people, including Tarja, and they just didn't get on. They've made that perfectly clear enough times, when are you guys gonna grow up and accept it?
They're all amazing musicians no matter who you think is better and it's pathetic that people keep treating them this way.

Sarah wrote on 24.11.2008 at 13:27
Marco is lying.

TheSeer wrote on 24.11.2008 at 14:37
That's interesting...during one of the 109457392876 interviews that Tuomas had after the split I remember him saying that Tarja had often accused the band's exausting touring to ruin her voice. I remember how he (and the complacent interviewer) sneered at her "ludicrous accusations".
Of course we all know what happened to Anette's voice last September....

Seriously, whoever is in charge of Nightwish's promotional and marketing strategies should just stop to carry on this WE=innocent, pure, highly moral country boys vs. SHE=evil greedy bitch who joined the Dark Side bullshit.

It sold well for three years, sure, but maybe now it's time to move on.

nevermore... wrote on 24.11.2008 at 18:28
"Marco is lying"...HAHAHA...What a idiot comment.TheSeer...you don't know nothing so don't write stupid comments.Like I said before...LET IT BE!

RockMan wrote on 24.11.2008 at 20:32
oh... The guys from Nightwish made a great mistake.They could stop working with Tarja in a very friendly way ;they could tell her what they want....so that there would be a small hope [for me] of seeing them together on the stage again...but that letter was just a s*** Their aim[according to me] was to gain some popularity for themselves and represent Tarja as the most evil, bad [and so on] person on the Earth...But everyone can clearly see the results,Tarja is doing very well without the band and keep rising up ....as NW keep going down....

Tordis Ahriman wrote on 24.11.2008 at 21:11
..."NW keep going down"...what the hell you are talking about...DPP album has sold more than all the previous albums...all the gigs are sold out...they have got awards...don't talk things what you don't know.It's great that Tarja is doing well but don't try to write selfish lies here because there is not any truths and facts behind your comment..."made a great mistake"...That's only your opinion.NW don't make music only to you and they can't please everybody.Find something else to listen if you don't like it.They still have old and new fans and listeners so they don't need your support!Tarja is gone so you better get over it!

RockMan wrote on 24.11.2008 at 23:38
Sarah, Rock Man, to move on is a nice thing as you try to persuade all others here. But I agree with most people here. People will move on when the guys from NW will move on. But do they move on? No, they just continue talking almost in every interview about Tarja with the same formula: WE=good, SHE=evil. Ok, how long will they do it? They do not add anything new here, so why keep stressing it everytime? They don't have anything else to talk about? They say they are happy now, and then add again and again same comments about their ex-singer. Is it neccessary? No, they could have avoided it already after three years, if they really wanted to. But they just do not want, that's the problem. Is it low? Yes, it is. Is it PR? Yes, it is. Honest and "innocent" people won't do that -specially THAT long.

MetalHead wrote on 25.11.2008 at 09:47
How many of you that have written commnets read the whole interview with Marco? If you have read it you would understand that former singer question was not the most important issue during the interview. When a jouralist asks this question, marko answers it, it is not him who talks about that fat lady over and over again.

me wrote on 25.11.2008 at 12:57
Do you people wanna know why guys form the band still talk about Tarja?? Because she was and still is ONE AND ONLY REAL NW SINGER!!!!! Maybe she was fired becuse she listened some bad advices from her husband,but honestly that's just an excuse. Tuomas was in love with her,she looked at him only as a friend,he couldn't take it anymore and fired her. Very "nice" move Tuomas. Everytime someone asks him that question he always sais that it's not true,that fire was burning between his music and her voice only. Tell that to my litle sister,she's 7,she'll believe that. "Hey Judas your Christess was OUR LOVE"????? Now you people tell me I'm wrong.

Ivy wrote on 25.11.2008 at 14:50
@me
I can only speak for myself, but yes, I?ve read the interview. But that?s not the point: it doesn?t take a genius to understand that tabloids (and especially finnish ones) literally drools over the possibility of Tarja and Nightwish talking about each other.

If in an interview Tuomas mentions that he has sent Tarja a Christmas card the next day all the tabloids in Finland are talking about it, no matter how long the interview was. If Tarja says that she likes Dark Passion Play and she wishes the guys all the best the next day everyone is talking about it, no matter how many other things she has said in the interview.

If Marco repeats for the millionth time the same overused cliché about how poor good country boys had to put up with a horrible corrupted diva he knows PERFECTLY that people are going to comment about it.

I admit that three years ago that was a wonderful opportunity of self-promotion. But now it?s simply getting old.

nevermore... wrote on 25.11.2008 at 14:57
they gived her the announcement in a letter...
what the fuck is this!!!
coward attitude,this not speak very well of them.

from the south wrote on 26.11.2008 at 06:08
Marco said nothing bad about Tarja as a person. He merely stated the facts. Don't go reading between the lines.

Tisa wrote on 26.11.2008 at 07:00
Fat lady? uuuh It's Annette who's gotten bigger and Tarja only prettier.
and facts? Depends on what the definition of a Diva is. That letter was a big joke. Every lier makes up reasons why he is good and it's all the fault of someone else. Those reasons don't say DIVA to me. I think Tarja was right and does very well on her own. Unfortunately the guys know a little bit more about marketing and slander. But they still didn't win that MTV award :P

Carolina wrote on 26.11.2008 at 08:28
Annette has an ugly saggy butt btw. Tarja's but is tighter and cuter :D

Carolina wrote on 26.11.2008 at 08:30
Ok these are the last offending comments we will accept to this topic. It really doesn't matter who has a bigger butt, Anette or Tarja :)

MFF Crew wrote on 26.11.2008 at 09:59
'Once' must be the most selling album of NW...
and the gigs-if i pay for a gig it means that I WANT to watch and listen to it and i'm not going to buy any ticket for NW cuz there is a BIG possibility that Anette left the stage in middle...
btw when Apocalyptica had a concert in Kavarna Paavo was feeling so bad[that everyone could mark it clearly] but he didn't left the stage...and yea...if u say Tarja there would be more ppl who at least have heard her name than if you try it with Anette ...

Tordis Ahriman wrote on 26.11.2008 at 11:48
Sorry Tordis...wrong again...Dark Passion Play album is the most selling now and it has been on the market only 1,5 years.Once has been on market almost 5 years.
When you lost guitar string it's easy to change but when the voice is your instrument and you lost it then it's totally different.Try to sing loudly 1.5 hours 4 to 5 times in a week...maby after that you understand my point.Artists are not machines and many singers has lost their voice on the stage!
If you don't like Anette it's ok and I don't care but don't write any crap about her here!Anette and Tarja are great singer in own way and they deserve respect!

RockMan wrote on 26.11.2008 at 13:16
I was there! x)

And I loved Anette's voice on Come cover me and Wish I had an angel!! She was so sweet and grateful to everyone!

Can someone please tell Marco it's been 3 years since Tarja was fired and that repeatedly saying the same stuff over and over isn't going to change anything?

Forget about that supposed crush Tuomas had for Tarja, seems that Marco is the one who still can't get over her.

Blackwood wrote on 26.11.2008 at 13:34
OK, I understand what you mean about NW going on about it, but in all fairness he was just answering the question.

Sarah wrote on 26.11.2008 at 16:54
I don't understand what's wrong RockMan ...
She could tell the audience that she didn't feel well and say sorry ...but what i read all over the internet is that she left the stage suddenly...without telling anyone anything...
in an interview the band said that there were many singers that send their demos but they choose Anette because she had experience and blabla... but what she did is just unacceptable...
+ in an other comment I said that I like some of their new song but I cannot accept that they call themselves Nightwish ,i'm not saying that just Tarja was NW...but it's the singer's voice that makes a band recognizable...{I hope u understand me}

Tordis Ahriman wrote on 26.11.2008 at 18:22
No, Tarja was fired for a good reason. She had her own interests and her heart was no longer with the band. Her intrests were more monetary, and she thought she was too good for Nightwish, that she was the only thing that kept the band alive. Had she stayed, the band would have fallen apart completely by now.

Anette was a great choice. Powerful voice, and you can hear that her heart's in it. She's dedicated, but she's just not used to such heavy touring, so she might be trying a bit too hard. But still, she's a great choice for the band. She brings a lot to it and i cannot wait for the next album!

And I listened to Tarja's solo album. She's nothing without Nigthwish. Sure, she has a few good songs, but most of them are pretty pathetic. It's basically saying "look at me! i'm an amazing singer!" and while her voice is great, the songs are just average. Theres no lyrical genius behind them. They're relativley plain.

Tarja's best move would be to join a new band, but I doubt anyone would accept her with her ego and commercial intrests.

My heart's with you, Anette!

Max wrote on 26.11.2008 at 21:26
Max, if you're interested I suggest you to read also the other side of the story. Things are never black and white, and you cannot judge someone's personality simply on the basis of what you read on the internet.
I think too that Anette is a great choice and that in 2005 Nightwish had some very big problems, personal and professional.
But blindly believing in a very angry and one-sided open letter is...well, a bit naive.

trilli wrote on 26.11.2008 at 21:54
Oh, give me a break. RockMan, so DPP sold good, does it prove it is the best album ever or there is greatest singer singing in it? Shitty pop albums of Britney Spears are sold maybe twice better than DPP but does it mean she has good music or vocals? The more simple it gets, the more people will buy it. Pop is all about it, LOL.
Your defending Annette of being only a human is so ever cute, but you forget that a singer has responsibility before the audience,cause without audience singers are nothing. And don't you know the rule of every true and devoted artist-THE SHOW MUST GO ON! no matter what! Devoted artist won't leave stage without saying why he or she does it. But it is what Annette did! And after that we got three different versions: smoke,problems with voice, and of course indirect attack at the ex-singer. How pathetic!

Avalon wrote on 27.11.2008 at 10:20
@ Avalon:
RockMan didn't write that DPP is the best album ever but the best selling album of Nightwish, so it means that people like it more than the previous ones. So, referring to what you wrote that the artist can't exist without audience - it means that Nightwish is doing well, beacuse of well selling album and sold out shows. And this is just the question of taste if you like music and a singer or not. Nobody says that Nightwish is the best band ever, because it is impossible to assess which music in the world is the best and who is the best to assess it.
And refering to Anette - at least she apologized, what the previous singer never did, after not showing up for the arranged meetings - I had doubtful pleasure to experience that twice. And there was no explanation at all.
But I didn't shout that she is not devoted or unprofessional, because for me she wasn't the most important person in the world and I went there to meet my favourite songwriter :)
So, finally if people like you are so angry about Anette leaving stage too early, not giving you possibility to listen more to her voice in beautiful Nightwish songs, I assume that you just like her and that's great!!!! Greetings to all of you ;)

Kasia wrote on 27.11.2008 at 13:42
Now referring to the interview:
Marco comes from Finland and as far as I know Finland is free, independent and democratic country, so I assume that he can express what he feels. And if he feels bad about Tarja, he can say that, the same did Tarja a few months ago. Then again a lot of people criticized her for telling bad things about Nightwish members and returning to unpleasant past.
It's 3 years now and probably all fans are fed up with that but journalists will ask the same question for some time yet, so Tarja and Nightwish will have to answer them.
Maybe if we wait one more year even journalist will get bored with what happened and then we all will live happily ever after.
(Well, I am eternal optimist).

Kasia wrote on 27.11.2008 at 14:13
...Tordis...you don't get my point...NW make music and our duty is listen that.They have artist freedom do what ever they like and they don't listen your selfish "what should they do"..."who is the singer"..."how should they do"...so if you don't like this find something else to listen.You have the same freedom like other people to choose what you listen so your comments don't change nothing and NW don't start to make music like you wish!They don't need your support because there is still people who will choose the NW music!

RockMan wrote on 27.11.2008 at 16:47
KASIA...thanks for replying to Avalon on behalf of me!I agree with you and you understand my point 100% right.Nobody is better in music because it's always opinion of own taste but there is still people who don't understand this idea.Everybody can listen and like what ever they want but that don't mean only that music is the "best" or "better"...I hate those words!I comment here because I don't like selfish stupid childish nasty comments about NW.People are writing lies and things what they don't know nothing...like this comparison "Britney Spears" is very childish but maby the writer is a child too.You don't have to listen music what you don't like but nobody has right to be nasty and evil here!

RockMan wrote on 27.11.2008 at 17:14
It seems that Max and Rockman here are the only adults and intelligent people. I share your point of view. Your comments are rational at least. Cheers.

fedex wrote on 27.11.2008 at 21:17
@RockMan - You're welcome :)

Kasia wrote on 27.11.2008 at 21:18
So, it is clear RockMan and Kasia are hard-core fans of NW and will defend their "Gods" no matter what, huh. Nope, Annette didn't apologize, she just whispered couple of words-which half of the audience didn't even hear- and left without explanation. And then they made three different versions of explanations, like they didn't know what is better for their PR and finally stopped on the third. And no, Kasia, I'm not glad about Annette's leaving the stage not because I was dreaming to listen to her, she is mediocre singer, nothing bad,nothing good. The thing that irritates me is her unprofessionalsim, and she is already in her late 30s and not a newcomer on stage. And I do not like, that singer who was chosen like for her professionalism behaved so lame without real good excuse for it.

Avalon, wrote on 27.11.2008 at 23:49
Sorry Avalon but I'm not fanatic NW fan.I like old and new Nightwish and many other bands too so don't try to be too "wise" again.
It's always sad for the crowd when the artist can't sing or have to leave the stage.Anette had a good reason to do that and you don't know how did she feel in that moment so you don't have any rights to judge her.She did a great job next day and sang the same song nicely.Perhaps you are a typical person who don't like Anette and try to find every moment bad things about her and after that try to strike her.You can be pissed and write it here again and again but it's not gonna change nothing even my opinion of this case.Everybody make mistakes so don't make this too big number for you!

RockMan wrote on 28.11.2008 at 02:26
Thanks fedex!Keep on Rock'n!

RockMan wrote on 28.11.2008 at 02:27
@Avalon:
I think that you didn't read my comment carefully, because I wrote that: "Nobody says that Nightwish is the best band ever". I just like them as they are. I suppose it's not a crime.
But if it makes you feel better call me a girl having bad taste in music :)
As for Anette - I didn't defend her, but I wrote that she apologized. She made an official statement for Brazilian fans at www.metalclube.com in Portugese, there is a translation of it in English on Nightwish forum.
And the last part I wrote, it was a joke. I read some of your comments earlier and I know that you are not very fond of Anette and it's ok with me. I didn't know that you would take my words so seriously. I am a person with a good sense of humour, but I promise I will never do that again to you!!!

Kasia wrote on 28.11.2008 at 13:58
it is a matter of opinion. Right now anette and the band are getting along well but it makes me wonder if later down the line if anette will even be apart of nightwish or if she will get her own open letter saying she has been fired. cause the guys got along with tarja in the begining but soon with her husband coming into the picture and the increasing number of attention toward tajra caused her to be fired. will anette recieve the same fate? I wonder if this is even in anette's thoughts

Missay wrote on 01.12.2008 at 21:11
I think it's absolute blindless to assmume that Tarja is innocent from any wrong doing, just because the band spoke publicly about their dissatisfaction with her. They wanted the fans to know the truth - if they had kept quite about it, it would have just lead to more rumors flying. Although I do not blame Tarja for wanting to go out on her own, I do think the way she went about leaving the band was in bad taste - she was beginning to separate herself from them, and it was very evident in her performance on the Once tour. The guys in the band have been honest, yet gracious about it - they have not badmouthed her or called her names, they just told it like it is. I believe them.

Zorsha wrote on 07.12.2008 at 04:08
Zorsha, I agree with you. Believing that Tarja is an innocent angel is pure blindness.

BUT, blindly assuming that everything that came out of the guys' mouths is the unconfutable truth is ALSO painfully naive.

No one knows what really happened and what caused the band's problems, but let's be realistic: anyone with a bit of insight about human relationships can understand that when a mess like this happens hardly anyone is innocent.

We have an open letter, an official biography, a documentary and tons of interviews: as far as I remember only Emppu had had the decency of admitting that BOTH the two parties involved were at fault.

Ironically, also Anette said to Rocksound that after touring with the band she has come to understand also Tarja's complaints: that shows not just her unbiased intelligence as a person but also the fact that in dealing with Tarja the guys weren't innocent at all.

The rest of the guys (and their management) instead haven't stopped repeating the same old and trivial version we= good she= evil.
But, after all, making people believe that things are black and white is easier and more comfortable.

Not to mention, profitable.

nevermore... wrote on 09.12.2008 at 16:49
oh,god,what a bull**t
we are country boys and she the evil bitch.It's very disgusting that they still talk crap about her after 3 years.As far as i remeber they had an argreement not to talk bad about each other behind each others back...this is really disrespectful

Mila wrote on 12.12.2008 at 06:28
Tarja has finally spoken her side of the story, after 3 years delay in her new song Enough. She probably got sick of Tuomas constantly talking bullsh*t about her, despite the agreement Mila mentioned. That's why the name Enough! There she finally openly says what many have been guessing, that Tuomas hates her just because she is in love with the other. Here are the lyrics:

ENOUGH

Keep your selfish Primma Donna
Dancing in your poisoned cage
Thinking that your consciences clear
If you drink your dreams away

Feed your anger to the devil
Weep thyself at wishing well
Take a swim in muddy waters
All the dirt will leave a trail

Had enough symphonies of sorrow
Be so brave and weep me away
Of this piece of treachery

Built a wall and made me crumble
Just because I am in love
Dont you cry, that you kept all
Those are toys that you have lot

Smash the mirror of the version
Keep the dagger that you made
Mirror, mirror,
Is there someone who can make your day today?

Kept my thoughts buried in a box
When its shut I still kept it locked
You draw a play written with my blood
Went ahead just to feed the rat

Had enough symphonies of sorrow
Be so brave and weep me away
Had enough symphonies of agony
Be so brave and weep me away
Of this piece of treachery

The song is a masterpiece!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrKublCrrkQ&feature=related

TheSeer wrote on 12.12.2008 at 18:01
The Seer loves to create stories. No Hollywood company would buy this script for the movie, however. If you write stories, please keep 'em in your drawer, because they are not interesting at all.

) wrote on 13.12.2008 at 16:00
Hollywood won't buy it from me but from Tarja directly. Unlike Tuomas, she already knows a lot of people in Hollywood. m/

TheSeer wrote on 15.12.2008 at 18:10
guys don't fight...most of the people like new and old nightwish the same...there are just different emotions(about the voice)...i still support nightwish and i like the music i listen to...if you don't like it...just don't listen to it...
stop talking bad about anette....i really am a big fan of tarja but she is not a member anymore...you must understand that....anette was a choice of the other members,so we have to understand that...please stop all that!
anette,either you like it or not,is a member of nightwish and i'm really happy about that....
i have read that the members was not doing well with tarja anymore,so,if they didn't chose anette,probably they would choose someone else...and i'm sure that all of you will have the same opinion that you have now...it's not tarja's or anette's fault,(and of course it's not the band's fault...)...
as i said before,if you don't like their music,just don't listen to it...it is breaking my nerves when i want to read interviews and i saw comments like that: tarja is good...anette sucks,nw are bad band now....bla bla bla......
and i'm sure many of the fans,don't want it....
good music doesn't mean only a perfect soprano voice....good music is good lyrics and music with emotions...of course the voice is important,but i can't see something bad to anette...

nightwish my life forevermore.....

i hope you all have a great week....and i also hope to understand some things...(you just can't help the whole situation...don't put the blame on the wrong persons...)

btw forgive me about my english...;)

ntina-jukkamaniac wrote on 16.12.2008 at 16:03
to "ntina-jukkamaniac"
I agree with you 100% !It's so sad that we have people like this "TheSeer" writing bull shit and lies here.I don't care and believe those stories because in the end the truth wins always!Nightwish (old and new) is a great band!

RockMan wrote on 16.12.2008 at 21:20
"The end" is yet to come RockMan...

TheSeer wrote on 17.12.2008 at 20:26
hmm....maybe yes,maybe not...
i know one thing for sure!nightwish is a top band(old and new)...and i wish to every band in this world to 'win' the respect and the level that nightwish have...

ntina-jukkamaniac wrote on 18.12.2008 at 18:00
Marco likes to do the dirty job

NL wrote on 22.12.2008 at 02:53
A wise Marco would have said : Let bygones be bygones...

you don't need to play this game, please stop to add fuel to the fire and make your business at the expense of Tarja and Anette's lives... leave people in peace and respect your audience.

mike wrote on 23.12.2008 at 17:49